[00:00.000 -> 00:10.720] You're listening to the most fraudulent f1 podcast with Dan aka engine mode 11. I secretly [00:10.720 -> 00:16.720] moonlight as hell with Marco race weekends and Blake aka break echo chambers of farts [00:16.720 -> 00:25.840] and idiots on Twitter after races. It's the engine breaking f1 podcast. [00:26.440 -> 00:27.080] Boom. [00:27.520 -> 00:28.920] Hello. [00:29.520 -> 00:30.680] Welcome. Episode 37. [00:30.680 -> 00:35.120] Go update the Wikipedia, put that in there under the engine breaking Wikipedia entry. [00:35.600 -> 00:43.200] We've made it to 37 episodes, but nobody genuinely nobody except for you lovely humans tuning into this care about that record. [00:43.200 -> 00:43.800] But we've made it. [00:42.560 -> 00:44.000] except for you lovely humans tuning into this care about that record, but we've made it. [00:44.000 -> 00:47.960] I'm sure there's some statistic about only 0.05% [00:47.960 -> 00:52.000] of podcasts make it past episode 420. [00:52.000 -> 00:53.360] So we're almost there. [00:53.360 -> 00:55.760] Sorry, no one cares, sorry. [00:55.760 -> 00:57.040] Oh shit, okay. [00:57.040 -> 00:59.880] Well, welcome to the Engine Breaking Podcast. [00:59.880 -> 01:02.240] I'm your co-host, Blake, aka Break. [01:02.240 -> 01:04.400] And this is Dan, aka Engine Mode 11. [01:04.400 -> 01:10.880] Two former F1 engineers having stole a wage from various F1 teams in the past are now [01:10.880 -> 01:13.960] making the most fraudulent podcast on the internet, which is kind of ironic because [01:13.960 -> 01:18.480] sometimes we talk sense, but today we're definitely going to talk some nonsense. [01:18.480 -> 01:19.480] So yeah. [01:19.480 -> 01:27.040] But speaking of, we haven't talked about it in a while, I've got the sweet smell of grilled chicken in my house thanks to Traeger. [01:27.040 -> 01:28.440] Oh, there you go. [01:28.440 -> 01:29.440] He's getting it in early. [01:29.440 -> 01:35.120] They don't sponsor us yet, but we love Traeger grills and barbecue this weekend. [01:35.120 -> 01:38.200] But anyway, so what to expect from this episode? [01:38.200 -> 01:40.760] Yeah, we'll do a little bit of news roundup. [01:40.760 -> 01:43.840] There's a couple of things happening on the buildup to this weekend and throughout the [01:43.840 -> 01:48.800] weekend and then we'll get into our little up Monza race weekend review going through [01:48.800 -> 01:55.600] the build up quickly. A little word from our sponsors then into the race review. Then we've [01:55.600 -> 01:59.680] got our favorite segments. We've got random fandom where Dan and I are going to give you [01:59.680 -> 02:07.120] our thoughts on a team at random that we picked last week. Um, Dan, you've got Ferrari this weekend. [02:07.640 -> 02:09.200] Go on to Fruin. [02:09.200 -> 02:09.560] Fruin. [02:10.080 -> 02:13.720] Yeah, I've got a alpha Romeo and then we'll get into fraud watch and engine [02:13.720 -> 02:17.680] mode, good boy, where we put somebody, um, on the fraud watch for being a fraud. [02:18.080 -> 02:19.880] And we put some other people on the engine mode. [02:19.880 -> 02:24.000] Good boy who have impressed us this weekend, but if you're new to [02:24.000 -> 02:26.400] the stream or the podcast, welcome. [02:26.400 -> 02:30.000] And if you're tuning in live on YouTube chat, hello, ladies and gentlemen. [02:30.800 -> 02:37.120] Dimitri Karsko, VroomSkar. Good to see you guys. M as well. Big man. Hello. So let's get into [02:37.120 -> 02:40.000] this weekend's episode. Oh, EngineMod11's in the chat. Hello. [02:40.000 -> 02:40.800] EngineMod11 Hello. [02:40.800 -> 02:46.000] Jason Vale Lead us in since you've just waved everybody in the chat. [02:46.040 -> 02:46.360] Hello. [02:46.360 -> 02:46.640] Yeah. [02:46.640 -> 02:47.160] News. [02:47.960 -> 02:52.240] My professional, professional news. [02:52.300 -> 02:56.120] Uh, so, uh, we don't really care about records here. [02:56.440 -> 02:56.760] Right. [02:56.800 -> 02:57.860] Let's get out of the way first. [02:57.860 -> 03:01.040] Cause that's only for Wikipedia, but, but ladies and gentlemen. [03:01.160 -> 03:04.360] Oh, no, let me, let me, let me teach you real quick. [03:04.360 -> 03:04.960] You hype me up. [03:05.000 -> 03:05.360] Yeah. Don't teach your own horn on stream. let me let me teach you real quick. You hype me up. [03:06.920 -> 03:07.800] Yeah, don't teach your own horn on stream. Let me do that for you. [03:08.040 -> 03:14.640] Dan, Dan is less than a thousand followers away from 100,000 [03:14.640 -> 03:15.440] followers on Twitter. [03:15.440 -> 03:16.880] 100K big, big time. [03:16.880 -> 03:20.440] So if you're not following Engine Mode 11 over on Twitter, go [03:20.440 -> 03:23.520] find before he slanders your favorite driver or team principal. [03:23.960 -> 03:28.280] Yeah, I hope it's going to be like when you turn 100 turn 100 in the UK used to get like a letter from the Queen [03:28.280 -> 03:31.360] I wanna I want a card from Elon Musk [03:32.440 -> 03:35.840] Yeah, he's gonna be like thanks for paying for Twitter blue you rat. Yeah [03:35.840 -> 03:40.300] Yeah, maybe blue or premium or fucking cyber truck you yeah [03:42.920 -> 03:44.920] Exactly [03:41.000 -> 03:42.000] Yeah. Exactly. [03:42.000 -> 03:51.600] Actual, actual real news, rather than me sort of hyping myself up. [03:51.600 -> 03:55.640] So do you remember, I can't remember now if it was post Silverstone or post Hungary, they [03:55.640 -> 03:59.120] did the weather tyre testing. [03:59.120 -> 04:00.120] And the speed mudguards. [04:00.120 -> 04:06.040] Yeah, they put, yeah, the speed, super sporty, speedy mudguards they put on that we already knew that that [04:06.040 -> 04:07.880] was a disaster and it was never going to work. [04:07.880 -> 04:13.520] Well, good news is the F1 CEO Stefano has finally realized, ah yeah, you're right, they [04:13.520 -> 04:14.520] don't work. [04:14.520 -> 04:19.640] So apparently they're now going to try a solution using the diffuser. [04:19.640 -> 04:22.520] I'm not really sure how that's going to work. [04:22.520 -> 04:26.160] I kind of had envisioned, you know, the 18 wheelers for our [04:26.160 -> 04:31.680] American friends and that they have like the rubber lorries, the rubber mud guards on the [04:31.680 -> 04:36.240] back tires. I wonder if they're going to put like a vanity screen on the back of the diffuser when [04:36.240 -> 04:39.440] it rains. I don't really know how it's going to work. Well, you know, like the old fashioned, [04:39.440 -> 04:42.720] like fly swatters. I was just imagining they're just going to tape a bunch of those to the back [04:42.720 -> 04:46.520] of the diffuser tunnel. So like, you know, break up the water spray. [04:46.520 -> 04:49.160] Clearly, we both said we worked in Formula One. [04:49.160 -> 04:52.360] Neither of us were aerodynamicists because this is all nonsense. [04:52.360 -> 04:53.360] Absolute nonsense. [04:53.360 -> 04:55.440] Yeah, we don't fucking know what we're doing anyway. [04:55.440 -> 05:01.480] So hire us or fire us or frauds. [05:01.480 -> 05:06.320] Yeah, I think because like we like we said in the episodes past that we the wet [05:06.320 -> 05:10.520] tires. So useless because they will not run them because of visibility, not because of [05:10.520 -> 05:15.480] performance, but also I don't think their performance is particularly grand, but at [05:15.480 -> 05:18.160] least we had a fully dry weekend this weekend. That was great. [05:18.160 -> 05:23.240] Oh geez, when's the last time that happened? I don't know. I have no idea. Honestly, I [05:23.240 -> 05:27.200] think it was. Couldn't tell you, [05:27.200 -> 05:31.600] but here's here's a not related to Formula One, but I think an interesting topic for our [05:31.600 -> 05:36.240] motorsport friends, and I want to get your thoughts on this as well. Formula Two have [05:36.240 -> 05:39.520] introduced their new chassis. What was the first thing you noticed about their new car? [05:40.640 -> 05:47.000] The quiff of a rear wing. Yeah, so if you haven't seen it, Google it, have a look. [05:47.000 -> 05:52.000] It looks very similar to the Super Formula car in many ways, [05:52.000 -> 05:55.000] but it still looks very, it looks very FIA to me. [05:55.000 -> 05:57.000] You know, it looks, looks a fire. [05:57.000 -> 06:00.000] Yeah, the wing looks like Adrian Newey on acid. [06:00.000 -> 06:07.480] Yeah, so I think what they're trying to do with that is get a bigger DRS effect. So that's [06:07.480 -> 06:12.160] interesting. But one of the one of the interesting topics, and I think is a really relevant topic [06:12.160 -> 06:17.240] today as it ever was, is one of the aims was to make the cars more accessible. So the previous [06:17.240 -> 06:22.480] Formula Two cars, there were probably some restrictions in terms of seating availability, [06:22.480 -> 06:28.160] pedals. And I think another thing is probably steering wheels, probably not fully accommodating for, [06:28.160 -> 06:31.600] you know, smaller drivers, including female drivers. [06:31.600 -> 06:35.360] Now the other thing they've said is we want to reduce the steering effort and everybody [06:35.360 -> 06:38.640] was expecting they would have power steering and the specs came out and there was no pass [06:38.640 -> 06:41.400] or power assisted steering system on the car. [06:41.400 -> 06:49.680] But what they did say after digging a little bit deeper is they have changed the steering geometry to reduce the peak steering effort, so. [06:49.680 -> 06:51.920] They have done what they said they were going to do, which honestly makes sense. [06:51.920 -> 06:53.840] I really I don't. [06:53.840 -> 06:57.820] I don't really think that there should be a physical barrier to entry because somebody [06:57.820 -> 06:58.820] is. [06:58.820 -> 07:03.040] You know, smaller in stature and not strong enough to deal with. [07:03.040 -> 07:05.520] You know this huge huge, super huge [07:05.520 -> 07:09.680] steering torque. See what that doesn't make any sense. Like racing is not about strength. [07:09.680 -> 07:15.640] Yeah, but yeah, now all I need to do is make a really wide one for a fat bastard like me [07:15.640 -> 07:19.560] to get in and we're away. [07:19.560 -> 07:28.740] But the interesting though Formula One cars do have power steering, but the peak steering torques can be well over 25 Newton meters, which is a fair bit. [07:28.740 -> 07:31.440] I'm absolutely knackered after using [07:31.440 -> 07:34.320] my nine Newton meter direct drive on iRacing. [07:34.320 -> 07:39.320] So these guys going around for a 300 kilometer race, [07:40.160 -> 07:41.760] cranking that for the whole time. [07:41.760 -> 07:42.680] Yeah. Respect. [07:43.600 -> 07:44.440] Big respect. [07:44.440 -> 07:47.600] Yeah, I couldn't do it. I get stressed out just parking my car in the local Tesco's. [07:47.600 -> 07:50.100] So there you go. [07:50.100 -> 07:53.300] That's my expert driving analysis. [07:53.300 -> 07:54.000] You're welcome. [07:55.300 -> 07:58.900] We've got we've got we've also got some news about Monza, but it's not about this weekend. [07:59.600 -> 08:02.300] No, Stefano, Stefano, Stefano. [08:02.500 -> 08:03.500] We talk about him a lot. [08:03.500 -> 08:04.000] We do. [08:04.000 -> 08:04.200] Yeah. [08:04.200 -> 08:05.800] Well, he's the spokesman. He's, you know, Stefano, Stefano. We talk about him a lot. We do. Yeah. [08:05.800 -> 08:06.800] Well, he's the spokesman. [08:06.800 -> 08:07.800] He's, you know, he puts himself up there. [08:07.800 -> 08:11.880] So, uh, he's confirmed that they're going to sit down with the organizers or he's confirmed [08:11.880 -> 08:14.760] that he sat down with the organizers, sorry, at the weekend. [08:14.760 -> 08:18.880] Uh, apparently he's, he said that circuit improvements need to happen if they've got [08:18.880 -> 08:20.640] any chance of a contract extension. [08:20.640 -> 08:25.000] Now I think this is because they're fighting between Imla and Monza. [08:25.000 -> 08:25.360] Yeah. [08:26.120 -> 08:30.560] Um, apparently the government have already turned around, said, yeah, mate, listen, we're [08:30.560 -> 08:34.000] already going to start work this week, so we're going to see. [08:34.000 -> 08:36.600] But, uh, Monza's got that old school feel. [08:36.600 -> 08:36.960] Yeah. [08:36.960 -> 08:38.440] Monza's got that old school feel on it. [08:38.440 -> 08:44.320] And that old school feel includes like really sort of, uh, dilapidated grandstands and [08:44.320 -> 08:44.880] things like that. [08:44.880 -> 08:45.000] So yeah, it's character. Yeah. We call it character. All Phil includes like really sort of dilapidated grandstands and things like that. [08:45.000 -> 08:48.000] So yeah, it's character. [08:48.000 -> 08:49.000] We call it character. [08:49.000 -> 08:52.560] But I think if you're going there for the first time, you'd probably say, this probably [08:52.560 -> 08:54.000] needs a little bit of investment. [08:54.000 -> 08:55.920] Yeah, a coat of paint wouldn't do no harm. [08:55.920 -> 09:01.480] And honestly, if you're a longtime listener to the podcast, we haven't actually reviewed [09:01.480 -> 09:02.920] their toilet facilities. [09:02.920 -> 09:08.180] Barcelona was on fraud watch for toilet facilities back until I think 2018 when they got a revamp. [09:08.180 -> 09:10.440] But holy, I don't think Monza is spectacular. [09:10.440 -> 09:12.280] No, I have to go here. [09:12.280 -> 09:13.920] I never used the toilet facilities at Monza. [09:13.920 -> 09:15.560] I'm gonna have to go you on that one. [09:15.560 -> 09:19.000] Well, I don't remember them, which means they probably weren't too bad. [09:19.000 -> 09:22.760] But midfield, yeah, midfield toilet game. [09:22.760 -> 09:28.960] But yeah, so interesting that the government's like, no, no, no, we can keep, are they backing [09:28.960 -> 09:29.960] Monza? [09:29.960 -> 09:30.960] Are they backing Imola? [09:30.960 -> 09:31.960] Or are they trying to keep both of them? [09:31.960 -> 09:37.680] I mean, if they're chucking money at Monza, it sounds to me like they're like, yeah, Monza. [09:37.680 -> 09:38.680] But that could be, I don't know. [09:38.680 -> 09:42.480] He doesn't, it hasn't defined whether that's local government, like sort of council level [09:42.480 -> 09:43.480] or if that's national. [09:43.480 -> 09:44.480] Yeah. [09:44.480 -> 09:45.360] So we'll see. [09:45.360 -> 09:45.680] Okay. [09:46.320 -> 09:47.720] I like it. [09:47.720 -> 09:50.360] I know it can be a bit hit and miss, but I like it. [09:51.000 -> 09:53.840] But if you, if you look back to the old school calendar, right. [09:53.840 -> 09:57.600] When you were on like, you know, 18 races a year, you had the standout tracks. [09:57.600 -> 10:01.000] You've got your monocle on one end of the spectrum, which is like [10:01.040 -> 10:05.520] the super brutal track, um, high downforce, the biggest wings you've got. [10:05.520 -> 10:09.440] And then you've also got to develop for a track like Monza. [10:09.440 -> 10:10.440] I mean, now we've got a couple [10:10.440 -> 10:13.040] of other low downforce circuits. [10:13.040 -> 10:15.200] We're gonna have Las Vegas coming up. [10:15.200 -> 10:16.800] Spas, one of those weird ones, [10:16.800 -> 10:18.440] and it depends on the formula of the car, [10:18.440 -> 10:21.360] if it's a medium or low downforce track. [10:21.360 -> 10:23.120] But I like it. [10:23.120 -> 10:24.560] I like the atmosphere. [10:24.560 -> 10:26.800] It's the home of Ferrari. [10:27.200 -> 10:30.680] The atmosphere is electric when you're there at the track. [10:30.680 -> 10:34.640] Yeah, it would be a shame to see it go because it is a super unique track [10:34.640 -> 10:35.480] with a lot of character. [10:35.480 -> 10:39.080] Like you said, it's the home of the original Orange Army to Fossey. [10:39.080 -> 10:39.480] Yeah. [10:40.560 -> 10:42.800] So yeah, here's a fun one. [10:43.200 -> 10:47.500] So Aston Martin has confirmed Stroll for 2024. [10:47.500 -> 10:49.500] I mean, shock. [10:49.500 -> 10:50.500] I'm so surprised. [10:50.500 -> 10:52.000] I can't believe it. [10:52.000 -> 10:53.000] Can you? [10:53.000 -> 10:55.000] Honestly, I mean, I'm reeling in shock. [10:55.000 -> 10:59.500] You can't see, you know, audio listeners, but I'm just on the floor right now doing this from laying on the floor. [10:59.500 -> 11:06.320] The most shocking part is how Team Principal Mike Crack, again I can't [11:06.320 -> 11:13.120] fucking say that name. My neck, my back. Wow. And Mike Crack. Wow, there you go that was for free. [11:13.120 -> 11:21.560] We didn't even have to pay him to do that. So yeah, asked if Lance Stroll was unfireable due to you [11:21.560 -> 11:25.840] know obviously Lawrence owning the team. Mike Crack said, [11:25.840 -> 11:30.120] no, we don't have such a debate. We'll be fine next year with the two drivers. [11:30.120 -> 11:35.060] There is not a marked gap in performance. There is a marked gap in points. We have [11:35.060 -> 11:38.280] had several issues all across the year which unfortunately always hit the same [11:38.280 -> 11:42.480] car. And then in the next sentence, Lawrence Stroll said Mike Crack has just [11:42.480 -> 11:45.560] secured his contract for the next 10 years. Yeah, exactly. [11:45.560 -> 11:49.520] It's out of slightly out of frame when they're conducting that interview. [11:49.520 -> 11:52.920] Lawrence Stroll had his sniper on the roof looking through the hospitality unit while [11:52.920 -> 11:55.600] Mike Crack was talking to the journalists about that one. [11:55.600 -> 11:58.520] He's like, listen, you know what to do. [11:58.520 -> 12:01.200] Yeah, there's not a there's not a marked gap in performance. [12:01.200 -> 12:02.680] There's a marked gap in points. [12:02.680 -> 12:08.640] Well, let me just as a slightly technical person, which honestly, I don't even think [12:08.640 -> 12:13.760] you need to be slightly technical to understand that there is a substantial difference in [12:13.760 -> 12:19.680] performance between the Dark Lord himself and this mere mortal Lance Stroll. Lance is [12:19.680 -> 12:29.600] not doing a bad job, but if you had two lances in that team, you would not be doing particularly well, but we could say that about several teams and, uh, yeah, he [12:29.600 -> 12:30.240] knows what he's doing. [12:30.240 -> 12:31.120] He's doing the politics. [12:31.120 -> 12:32.040] So he gets a paycheck. [12:32.480 -> 12:32.900] I do it. [12:32.900 -> 12:35.280] And I'm sure Mike cracks on a decent wedge. [12:36.340 -> 12:39.020] I'd say some really weird stuff for 30 bucks, honestly. [12:39.360 -> 12:40.140] Yeah, that's true. [12:40.140 -> 12:44.760] I mean, we say some really pretty, uh, wild things for free, but Lawrence, [12:44.940 -> 12:46.480] Lawrence, Lawrence Stroll has been in [12:46.480 -> 12:49.360] F1 since 2017. [12:49.360 -> 12:53.440] If it's not happened yet, don't get me wrong, I like Lawrence, right? [12:53.440 -> 12:57.880] But you don't get to keep an F1 seat because you're nice. [12:57.880 -> 13:03.720] But I feel like on the other hand to that, and yes, it's not performance, but at the [13:03.720 -> 13:09.800] same time, Lawrence Stroll has saved that team from disappearing completely. [13:10.280 -> 13:13.920] And, you know, at the same time, he's got a lot of conviction. [13:13.920 -> 13:15.400] He's put his money where his mouth is. [13:15.680 -> 13:16.240] And you know what? [13:16.240 -> 13:18.880] If he wants Lance to drive one of the cars. [13:19.920 -> 13:20.800] You know, so be it. [13:21.360 -> 13:21.800] They've had it. [13:22.160 -> 13:23.040] His fucking team. [13:23.480 -> 13:24.160] Yeah, exactly. [13:24.160 -> 13:26.200] It's his fucking train set. He can conduct it however he'd like. I think they've done a good job. they've had it. It's fucking team. Yeah, exactly. It's his fucking trains that he can conduct it. [13:26.200 -> 13:26.740] However he'd like. [13:27.140 -> 13:28.280] I think they've done a good job. [13:28.280 -> 13:29.420] They've dumped a load of money to that. [13:29.420 -> 13:33.360] The facilities in that place, when I worked at force India, which is the same [13:33.660 -> 13:37.540] team, it was such a small place that there was nothing to it. [13:37.540 -> 13:40.300] And you look at this new facility and you look at how far they've come [13:40.300 -> 13:41.580] since the end of last season. [13:43.500 -> 13:43.940] I got it. [13:43.980 -> 13:46.080] You got to put some respect on that. But yeah, [13:46.080 -> 13:50.560] a lot of people in the chat saying Lance looks uninterested in every interview. I think that's [13:50.560 -> 13:56.800] just, that's just being Canadian, isn't it? I love Canadians. I think he's yeah. He's [13:56.800 -> 14:04.240] just now banned from entering Canada. I love Canada. Screw you. I like Canada too. Yeah. [14:04.240 -> 14:05.960] We should go to Canadian Grand Prix one year. [14:05.960 -> 14:06.960] We should. [14:06.960 -> 14:07.960] We should. [14:07.960 -> 14:08.960] We hype it up enough. [14:08.960 -> 14:09.960] Yeah. [14:09.960 -> 14:10.960] All right. [14:10.960 -> 14:13.760] Next season, chat, sponsors, friends of the podcast. [14:13.760 -> 14:14.760] Traeger. [14:14.760 -> 14:15.760] Traeger, yeah. [14:15.760 -> 14:17.880] Get us out to an F1 race. [14:17.880 -> 14:20.280] We would love to interview your drivers. [14:20.280 -> 14:28.680] I am in trouble for grilling Carlos Sainz a bit too much, but we'll get back to that. But speaking of speaking of other driver contract extensions, we've got this other midfield [14:28.680 -> 14:30.320] team that's just renewed their drivers. [14:30.320 -> 14:32.320] I'm just kidding. [14:32.320 -> 14:33.320] Not me. [14:33.320 -> 14:34.320] Yeah, so Lewis and George. [14:34.320 -> 14:35.320] I love it. [14:35.320 -> 14:36.320] I love it. [14:36.320 -> 14:37.320] Lewis and George contract extensions until the end of 2025. [14:37.320 -> 14:38.320] I don't I don't think that's a major surprise. [14:38.320 -> 14:39.320] But here you go. [14:39.320 -> 14:40.320] Hamilton apparently is getting 50 million dollars. [14:40.320 -> 14:41.320] I don't know. [14:41.320 -> 14:42.320] I don't know. [14:42.320 -> 14:43.320] I don't know. [14:43.320 -> 14:44.320] I don't know. [14:44.320 -> 14:47.040] I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I 2025. Ah, I don't, I don't think that's a major surprise. [14:47.040 -> 14:48.360] Uh, but here you go. [14:48.360 -> 14:52.320] Hamilton apparently is getting 50 million pounds a year according to UK newspapers. [14:52.320 -> 14:56.560] I mean, he, Lewis Hamilton is one of the biggest sports people. [14:56.560 -> 15:01.960] He is probably the face of motorsport and a national to some degree. [15:01.960 -> 15:07.480] Like if you watch Formula One or you, if you've opened a newspaper at some point, you've seen there was Hamilton on it. [15:07.480 -> 15:10.940] I, that's a lot of cash, but, uh, yeah, I'm Louis. [15:10.940 -> 15:12.960] I'm fucking asking for 50 mil every day. [15:13.400 -> 15:13.840] Easy. [15:14.000 -> 15:14.360] Yeah. [15:14.360 -> 15:18.200] Well, how much did we ask for people to shut the podcast down? [15:18.840 -> 15:19.560] Oh, I don't know. [15:19.560 -> 15:21.240] I, I've made it really low figure. [15:21.680 -> 15:23.880] You're going to be like, like 20 quid more into tomorrow. [15:24.640 -> 15:28.200] It's 20 quid. I'll tell you, I'll just delete really low figure. You're going to be like, like 20 quid and we'll end it tomorrow. 20 quid paper chat and I'll just delete all this now. [15:28.200 -> 15:36.240] No, but seriously though, like I think I still say it again, the Mercedes car still not spectacular, [15:36.240 -> 15:41.800] but George and Lewis, probably the best driver pairing on the grid. [15:41.800 -> 15:42.800] Yeah. [15:42.800 -> 15:43.800] Simple. [15:43.800 -> 15:46.880] I don't think there's any debate in terms of the sum of the parts. [15:46.880 -> 15:47.880] Those two definitely. [15:47.880 -> 15:49.680] It's going to be spicy. [15:49.680 -> 15:51.840] I want them to have a contract. [15:51.840 -> 15:56.600] I want them to have a constructors winning car next year because I want to see them two [15:56.600 -> 15:59.560] in a competitive at the front and see and see how it goes. [15:59.560 -> 16:09.840] If it's respectable or if it's absolute chaos, Nico and Hamel in part two. He turned in on me kind of vibes, you know, I want to see. [16:09.840 -> 16:10.840] Blimey. [16:10.840 -> 16:16.800] But yeah, here's another interesting little, we got two little technical bits this week. [16:16.800 -> 16:22.560] There's the flexi wings and you did quite a few of the notes for this, but we've heard [16:22.560 -> 16:23.560] about this before. [16:23.560 -> 16:27.600] Apparently teams, including Aston Martin were advised to make changes to [16:27.600 -> 16:30.560] their front wing designs around Baku. [16:31.160 -> 16:33.360] And when did they stop being on the podium? [16:34.160 -> 16:35.600] Canada right after. [16:37.120 -> 16:38.760] Play it, play the conspiracy. [16:39.680 -> 16:44.520] I don't know where that soundbite is, but honestly, I don't think that's [16:44.520 -> 16:46.240] even a fraud files thing,'t think that's even a fraud [16:46.240 -> 16:47.240] files thing. [16:47.240 -> 16:48.520] I think that's definitely something. [16:48.520 -> 16:52.680] So here's how the front wing deflection works right now. [16:52.680 -> 16:58.680] The FIA specify certain loads that you apply to the wings and they specify the maximum [16:58.680 -> 17:03.360] amount of deflection and how they do this in practice is at the FIA test patch, they [17:03.360 -> 17:04.600] will put some weights. [17:04.600 -> 17:06.380] You've got these little caps that sit on top [17:06.380 -> 17:09.100] of your front wing and you put weights on it. [17:09.100 -> 17:12.700] And it's some shitload of kilos. [17:12.700 -> 17:14.440] And they make sure that the wing does not deflect more [17:14.440 -> 17:15.280] than a certain amount. [17:15.280 -> 17:16.540] And it's a really simple test. [17:16.540 -> 17:19.020] And this is mostly a bending test. [17:19.020 -> 17:23.460] And it also encompasses rotation or flexing front back. [17:23.460 -> 17:26.120] But how do you come up with a test? [17:26.120 -> 17:28.920] I mean, Dan, you've seen the videos of the front wings [17:28.920 -> 17:30.760] and the flaps bending backwards, [17:30.760 -> 17:33.840] and teams are coming up with really clever ways [17:33.840 -> 17:37.200] to build in compliance to these systems [17:37.200 -> 17:39.040] that pass the rules. [17:39.040 -> 17:41.160] The FI have specified the rules [17:41.160 -> 17:43.540] and the teams have passed these with sailing colors, [17:43.540 -> 17:44.800] but the FI have said, [17:44.800 -> 17:47.840] we think you guys are doing something tricky with the way you're mounting stuff so that [17:47.840 -> 17:52.880] it flexes in a way, passes the tests, but it's still giving you some kind of interesting [17:52.880 -> 17:53.880] advantages. [17:53.880 -> 17:54.880] Yeah. [17:54.880 -> 18:00.960] So the FIA reckon they're exploiting systems that rotate or flex the front and rear wing [18:00.960 -> 18:10.880] elements in ways that can't be detected through the tests like you mentioned. So they've issued this technical directive 018, which again, we don't see these. [18:10.880 -> 18:13.600] We only know about this because it gets leaked and it really annoys me that we never get [18:13.600 -> 18:15.860] to see these. [18:15.860 -> 18:20.640] But they've advised this weekend that it's coming, but the changes aren't going to come [18:20.640 -> 18:30.480] in until Singapore. And, uh, basically, so the areas they think they're exploiting is on the rear wing. [18:30.560 -> 18:33.160] They think it's a design of the end plates and the mounting pillar. [18:34.400 -> 18:37.840] And, and then on the front, I think it's the way that the wing elements mount to [18:37.840 -> 18:42.880] the nose have more axial freedom than was intended when the regulations were written up. [18:43.120 -> 18:48.240] So, so axial would be, if you're looking at the side, the front of the car, it'd be towards [18:48.240 -> 18:49.840] and away from the nose. [18:49.840 -> 18:50.840] That's interesting. [18:50.840 -> 18:53.340] So I think probably it's, we've seen what it is. [18:53.340 -> 18:56.120] It's the flaps backing off more than they thought. [18:56.120 -> 19:01.020] But here's an interesting thing about what those things mean for performance. [19:01.020 -> 19:06.980] The rear wing is almost certainly about drag, and I don't think Aston Martin [19:06.980 -> 19:11.520] were playing that trick because I think Aston was very likely to be the front wing. The [19:11.520 -> 19:14.260] rear wing is about drag, and you want to find a way that you can back that off because the [19:14.260 -> 19:18.460] rear wing generates most of your drag. The front wing is not drag, and I've seen a few [19:18.460 -> 19:23.220] people slightly misquote that to say people have front flaps that back off and reduce [19:23.220 -> 19:29.200] drag, but drag is like second or third order. You've got rear wing level and you've got rear ride height, [19:29.200 -> 19:33.560] and then you've got the overall drag level of the car. Top to bottom of the front wing, [19:33.560 -> 19:38.800] there's not much of that in drag. So that backing off the front wing is about high speed [19:38.800 -> 19:44.040] to low speed balance, which is very cleverly and most effectively done with a flexible [19:44.040 -> 19:45.760] front wing flap. [19:45.760 -> 19:50.660] So they're playing some tricks there, and I think understanding what Aston are struggling [19:50.660 -> 19:54.000] with because the Aston here's here's an interesting one though. [19:54.000 -> 19:58.800] Aston have gone from this super high downforce, great high speed performance, super draggy [19:58.800 -> 20:00.160] machine. [20:00.160 -> 20:04.800] And now they're kind of slow in the high speed, strong, medium and low speed, and they've [20:04.800 -> 20:06.260] got a mid range top speed. [20:06.260 -> 20:12.340] So certainly with, at least with the philosophy of the car is it's done 180 [20:12.340 -> 20:13.980] degree turns since the start of the season. [20:13.980 -> 20:16.540] So I think there is not a fraud file there. [20:16.540 -> 20:18.820] I think there's definitely some weight in that. [20:19.800 -> 20:20.180] Yeah. [20:20.220 -> 20:24.540] Well, the FIA have asked teams to submit all their wing designs [20:24.660 -> 20:27.280] to them by 8th of September. [20:29.040 -> 20:32.840] But it's, it also sounds like TD 18 means somebody got told, you know, that [20:32.840 -> 20:36.200] thing we always talk about where they say, hi, we'd like clarification on this. [20:36.200 -> 20:38.240] Cause we definitely don't think another team's doing it. [20:38.600 -> 20:40.480] And they're like team that you definitely don't think is doing it. [20:40.560 -> 20:40.960] Definitely. [20:40.960 -> 20:42.080] Please stop doing that. [20:42.200 -> 20:47.560] Because the thing is, it's not in the regulations, but once a technical directive has been made [20:47.560 -> 20:52.320] clear to everybody, they will then use that information to the stewards to be like, hey, [20:52.320 -> 20:56.560] stewards, we told them to stop messing around and they messed around. [20:56.560 -> 21:01.840] And we, you know, here's the regulation, the framework, do you think this falls foul of [21:01.840 -> 21:04.740] flexible body work, the catch all regulation? [21:04.740 -> 21:08.960] Very likely they will say, yes, you have lost your points for this race and [21:08.960 -> 21:10.280] you need to fix it for the next race. [21:10.600 -> 21:13.360] So they've potentially not done that. [21:13.680 -> 21:13.920] Yeah. [21:13.960 -> 21:18.000] So like technical directive, you can just basically translate that as we think we [21:18.000 -> 21:19.760] know you're cheating, but we can't prove it. [21:20.280 -> 21:21.920] So here's how we think you're doing it. [21:21.920 -> 21:22.600] Stop doing it. [21:23.280 -> 21:24.640] Yep, exactly that. [21:25.000 -> 21:26.000] Exactly. But we've had another. [21:26.000 -> 21:30.900] We've had another tech bit and it's not the first time we've seen Total Wolf in the press [21:30.900 -> 21:32.360] this week in making statements. [21:32.360 -> 21:34.600] This is the time I do agree with him. [21:34.600 -> 21:38.680] Renault and Alpine have been suggesting that they're about 30 horsepower down and they [21:38.680 -> 21:42.880] would like to do some development to close the gap and open up the possibility so that [21:42.880 -> 21:50.080] they could be more competitive throughout the future seasons going into 2026. And Total Wolf says, we don't see this. [21:50.640 -> 21:54.880] This is, we can't see it. And that's interesting because teams will look at like, like you, [21:54.880 -> 21:59.920] like I do in my newsletter and all my videos is we'll look at the telemetry. Teams can do simple [21:59.920 -> 22:08.000] models of teams and estimate their engine power, their drag levels, or downforce levels to a reasonable degree. [22:08.000 -> 22:10.480] Ten horsepower is a big chunk of performance. [22:10.480 -> 22:14.440] It's about a percent, and you can see that. [22:14.440 -> 22:19.880] And other teams, there's no way that they're 30 horsepower out. [22:19.880 -> 22:21.680] There's absolutely no way otherwise be so obvious. [22:21.680 -> 22:26.000] And it's interesting that they're politicking this as well, because what do the FIA have [22:26.000 -> 22:27.000] access to? [22:27.000 -> 22:28.000] Talk, clutch, torque meters. [22:28.000 -> 22:29.000] Yeah, every single car. [22:29.000 -> 22:30.000] Yeah, so it's like the clutch torque meters are spec parts, they're mandated, and they're [22:30.000 -> 22:31.000] used for the launch control. [22:31.000 -> 22:32.000] And it's a great way for the FIA to monitor how are people doing in terms of engine performance? [22:32.000 -> 22:33.000] Are people doing anything weird? [22:33.000 -> 22:34.000] And I don't understand why Alpine doing this. [22:34.000 -> 22:35.000] Maybe what's his name? [22:35.000 -> 22:36.000] Does it, does it have a name? [22:36.000 -> 22:37.000] I don't know. [22:37.000 -> 22:38.000] I don't know. [22:38.000 -> 22:39.000] I don't know. [22:39.000 -> 22:40.000] I don't know. [22:40.000 -> 22:41.000] I don't know. [22:41.000 -> 22:42.000] I don't know. [22:42.000 -> 22:43.000] I don't know. [22:43.000 -> 22:44.000] I don't know. [22:44.000 -> 22:45.220] I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Uh, to monitor how are people doing in terms of engine performance? Are people doing anything weird? [22:47.560 -> 22:48.800] And I don't understand why Alpine doing this. Maybe what's his name? [22:49.240 -> 22:52.000] Uh, does it realize the FAA can see this and he's just like, [22:52.000 -> 22:53.200] talk some shit in the press. [22:53.320 -> 22:56.680] I don't even, I can't even fucking remember who's running Alpine now. [22:56.680 -> 22:57.800] I think it changes every week. [22:57.800 -> 22:58.120] Doesn't it? [22:58.120 -> 22:58.440] They just. [22:59.240 -> 23:01.240] Pick straws out in the garage and say, right, you're the [23:01.240 -> 23:03.080] representative representative this week. [23:03.520 -> 23:03.880] Yeah. [23:04.080 -> 23:04.440] Yeah. [23:04.800 -> 23:09.280] You wear the shoes, mate. But I really, really don't think Alpine are 30 [23:09.280 -> 23:14.640] horsepower down. And I think that would be very clear if they were. Just for a point of reference, [23:14.640 -> 23:20.960] 10 horsepower is about a tenth of a second on the straight. I don't think Alpine are that far out in [23:20.960 -> 23:25.480] terms of like, because all we can see is the combination of dragon power. I don't think they're that far out. [23:25.480 -> 23:29.540] But anyway, that's, that's, those are my thoughts on that. [23:29.540 -> 23:33.180] And I don't really think we're going to hear too much more about that, but what's what [23:33.180 -> 23:36.040] else we got before we get into the Monza race event? [23:36.040 -> 23:38.320] Uh, we've had some Danny Rick news. [23:38.320 -> 23:41.040] Uh, please come back soon. [23:41.040 -> 23:42.680] Please, please, please. [23:42.680 -> 23:47.920] Wankers whiplash injury update, uh, likely out until Qatar. [23:48.720 -> 23:51.880] Uh, I think they're trying to aim for Japan, but that might be a little bit [23:52.200 -> 23:52.800] optimistic. [23:53.560 -> 23:57.400] Um, I think they need to get him back before Oscar needs to go to do super law [23:57.400 -> 24:02.080] formula, but Oscar, um, Lawson, sorry, Liam Lawson, you know, Oscar Piastri [24:02.080 -> 24:03.840] has magically jumped into the Alpha Tower. [24:03.840 -> 24:04.240] He sorry. [24:04.600 -> 24:05.960] Other man down under ish. [24:06.760 -> 24:07.160] Yeah. [24:07.640 -> 24:07.920] Yeah. [24:07.960 -> 24:08.460] Clear enough. [24:08.460 -> 24:10.480] They're all roughly in the same area or whatever. [24:10.520 -> 24:10.840] Yeah. [24:10.960 -> 24:11.360] Yeah. [24:11.840 -> 24:12.160] Yeah. [24:12.280 -> 24:12.680] Yeah, dude. [24:12.680 -> 24:14.040] That's, that's one of those things. [24:14.040 -> 24:17.480] And it's like, he's probably, he's got the best medical help he can get [24:17.520 -> 24:19.680] because poor people like us couldn't afford that. [24:20.080 -> 24:23.920] And if the doc says, Hey, sort this out now, otherwise you [24:23.920 -> 24:24.960] were not going to be racing. [24:25.000 -> 24:25.160] You're definitely going to be racing. [24:26.400 -> 24:32.320] You're definitely going to do it. Like and also Daniel looks like he's been on good form and Liam looks like he's also been on good form. [24:32.320 -> 24:34.120] So I'm happy to see it. [24:34.240 -> 24:35.120] We'll get back to Liam. [24:35.400 -> 24:40.800] But before we do that, why don't we have a little just a quick word from our sponsors? [24:41.480 -> 24:42.280] Sure, why not? [24:44.120 -> 24:48.360] Yes, it's that time again for a word from our sponsors NordVPN. [24:48.360 -> 24:49.600] You know them by now. [24:50.040 -> 24:54.120] It's a product that me and Blake have used long before this podcast was even a thing. [24:54.640 -> 24:57.640] And we are very thankful for their ongoing support to the [24:57.640 -> 24:59.880] podcast and for you listeners. 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Yeah, we go [25:46.480 -> 25:48.320] Mmm keep paying us so we can fund [25:48.320 -> 25:49.880] our Monza toilet review trip. [25:49.880 -> 25:50.720] Yeah, exactly. [25:50.720 -> 25:52.640] Imagine that the Monza toilet [25:52.640 -> 25:54.320] review sponsored by Nord VPN. [25:54.320 -> 25:55.320] I love it. [25:55.320 -> 25:56.320] Imagine that happens. [25:56.320 -> 25:58.320] We honestly the great great stuff. [25:58.320 -> 26:02.960] I use them pretty much every weekend and it's. [26:02.960 -> 26:03.960] It's a real deal, [26:03.960 -> 26:05.900] but let's let's get into the Monza [26:05.900 -> 26:07.500] race event and we're not talking [26:07.500 -> 26:08.040] about toilets. [26:08.040 -> 26:09.960] I have no notes about here on out [26:09.960 -> 26:12.500] and the podcast, but like we said, [26:12.500 -> 26:14.040] dude, this is the first drive [26:14.040 -> 26:15.380] Formula One weekend in months, [26:15.380 -> 26:17.680] and I feel like the wet races [26:17.680 -> 26:19.180] lately have been the savor [26:19.180 -> 26:20.540] of predictable Formula One. [26:20.540 -> 26:21.340] It's been chaos. [26:21.340 -> 26:22.480] It's been unpredictable, [26:22.480 -> 26:24.080] but I think this weekend, [26:24.080 -> 26:31.440] especially with the alternative tire allocation, also shook things up a bit. So the rundown on the [26:31.440 -> 26:35.360] alternative tire allocation is probably trying to not bring as many tires to a weekend, [26:35.360 -> 26:41.600] save manufacturing a bit of rubber. But I think it's not such a bad thing. So you get basically [26:41.600 -> 26:48.840] get one more set of hards and mediums, and you get four less sets of soft. And then in qualifying one, two, and three, you have to run a hard [26:48.840 -> 26:53.800] than a medium and then soft. So throughout the weekend, before you get to qualifying, [26:53.800 -> 27:00.220] you've only run two new soft tires. Um, and I think that's, what's your thoughts been [27:00.220 -> 27:05.240] on the alternative tire weekends? Have they bothered you at all or any thoughts on them? [27:05.860 -> 27:07.080] We had it in Hungary, didn't we? [27:07.080 -> 27:07.840] The first time. [27:08.360 -> 27:08.760] Yeah. [27:08.840 -> 27:10.280] And I think it worked quite well there. [27:10.480 -> 27:13.080] It may qualify in a bit of sort of unpredictable and whatnot. [27:13.920 -> 27:18.920] Um, but this time I don't think it was as exciting. [27:18.920 -> 27:22.320] And I think in terms of the race, it just, it really stifled [27:22.320 -> 27:27.020] everyone to like a single fucking, um, strategy for the actual race. [27:27.040 -> 27:27.920] So I don't know. [27:29.120 -> 27:33.520] Yeah, I, you say that and I thought the exact same thing, but people spend a lot [27:33.520 -> 27:37.000] of time in free practice, checking the soft tire performance. [27:37.920 -> 27:41.300] I think the compounds were a step softer than last year. [27:41.520 -> 27:45.280] And last year we had some soft medium one stops until the safety car at the [27:45.280 -> 27:51.600] end, but that's what the plan was. With as low as the degradation is, I think honestly, [27:54.160 -> 27:57.840] you want Monza to be a one-stop race with this level of degradation they got, because you lose [27:57.840 -> 28:01.600] so much time in the pit lane. I think teams are going to do whatever strategy. And so, [28:02.640 -> 28:05.680] maybe it was the alternative tire allocation that pushed [28:05.680 -> 28:10.640] us that way. Because nobody, like realistically nobody, but nobody in the back even thought about [28:10.640 -> 28:16.320] trying a soft and they did have new soft tires. So that's a tough one. Another thing that the [28:16.320 -> 28:24.640] stewards added this weekend, a maximum lap time allowed, applying it to outlaps as well as in-laps. [28:24.640 -> 28:28.600] And this was to avoid, you've seen some of the F2 and F3 races in the past where there's [28:28.600 -> 28:31.080] a parking lot prior to turn 11. [28:31.080 -> 28:34.480] You have some somebody on a flying lap trying to bonsai. [28:34.480 -> 28:37.120] It's fucking dangerous, but it's the nature of the circuit. [28:37.120 -> 28:38.880] People trying to get toes. [28:38.880 -> 28:41.360] The FIA said, do not do it. [28:41.360 -> 28:42.360] Do not do it. [28:42.360 -> 28:47.040] Here's so if you go slower than this lap time, at any point, you're in [28:47.040 -> 28:51.040] trouble, specifically focusing on people jockeying for position on outlaps. [28:51.640 -> 28:51.840] Yeah. [28:51.880 -> 28:52.560] Right decision. [28:52.680 -> 28:53.520] The right decision. [28:53.560 -> 28:56.640] And someone fell foul of that, but we'll come back to that in a moment. [28:58.240 -> 29:00.280] Obviously, no, not controversial. [29:00.280 -> 29:03.200] Let's let's let me buzz through the practice sessions. [29:03.200 -> 29:09.300] So we had Felipe Drogovic in FP1, did 24 laps. [29:09.300 -> 29:13.300] He only, because of this stupid alternative tyres, he was only given one set of tyres. [29:13.300 -> 29:18.200] So he had to make the medium tyres last throughout the whole hour, but he did his run plan and [29:18.200 -> 29:21.100] whatever, he seemed to do alright. [29:21.100 -> 29:26.880] Unfortunately, then Lance Stroll gets back in the car for their FP2, does half a lap [29:26.880 -> 29:31.200] and then he has a fuel system issue which means basically Lance hasn't driven the car at all on [29:31.200 -> 29:38.320] the Friday so well done. Terrible man, absolutely shocking. Yeah FP2 Checo decides to rip pretty [29:38.320 -> 29:47.840] much the floor to pieces as he flies off and goes through the gravel. Um, there was a photo doing the rounds where the car is being lifted or whatever. [29:47.840 -> 29:50.560] And if you look underneath it, the floor is completely. [29:51.520 -> 29:55.420] Yeah, you could see like the slot, the side where he was sliding, it was just [29:55.420 -> 29:58.800] like, look like some rats had gotten ahold of the front edge of the diffuser. [29:58.800 -> 30:00.460] The boat area just chewed through it. [30:00.460 -> 30:03.680] So, you know, these, these things are built to last, but they're not built to [30:03.680 -> 30:09.840] be slid through gravel at 250 kilometers an hour. That's for damn sure. Yeah. Funny that basically check. [30:09.840 -> 30:14.320] I decided to stoneblast the underside of the car and we found out it wasn't built for that. So, [30:14.320 -> 30:18.720] yeah, you know, you know, it's funny just tuning, jumping into that. I remember back in the day [30:18.720 -> 30:27.320] when I was at force India, there was so much sand on the track that the leading edges of the diffuser and the wings, [30:27.320 -> 30:29.720] they would get sandblasted to absolute fuck. [30:29.720 -> 30:33.600] And at the end of a Grand Prix, you would have holes in parts of the bodywork. [30:33.600 -> 30:38.040] So over time, people have built them stronger and stronger, but that that shit do be abrasive. [30:38.040 -> 30:40.360] Yeah, it really do be. [30:40.360 -> 30:45.040] But Ferrari looked quick on the Friday, which was I was they had a new PU. [30:45.040 -> 30:47.040] They put a new PU in both cars. [30:47.040 -> 30:52.440] Yeah, and I thought, oh, this is this is some Friday to Fossey glory runs. [30:52.440 -> 30:53.440] Whatever. [30:53.440 -> 30:55.440] Let them have their fun sort of thing. [30:55.440 -> 30:59.080] But they look sharp all weekend, man. [30:59.080 -> 31:01.760] Yeah, FP3 came around and it looked legit. [31:01.760 -> 31:04.640] Yeah, no messing around. [31:04.640 -> 31:07.500] But there was the other classic during Friday. [31:07.500 -> 31:11.040] And I think, I think at one point in the weekend, Max was like, I'd really [31:11.040 -> 31:12.320] like to run another set of softs. [31:12.320 -> 31:16.280] And it's like, no, you get a soft and P2 and a soft and P3. [31:16.280 -> 31:18.020] And he's like, GPS. [31:18.020 -> 31:19.420] And well, did you learn anything? [31:19.420 -> 31:21.220] And Max goes, not really. [31:21.460 -> 31:22.800] Twitch GP replies calmly. [31:23.280 -> 31:23.700] Well done. [31:25.880 -> 31:30.520] Classic GP. Not really twitch GP replies calmly. Well done. That classic GP, but like at the end of the day, it's like one of those things that you [31:30.520 -> 31:33.640] don't if you get obstructed on your lap, you don't get a clean lap. [31:33.640 -> 31:35.900] You don't get a good read on it. [31:35.900 -> 31:37.020] You just out of luck. [31:37.020 -> 31:43.220] So yeah, and we'll come back to also the lack of practice is interesting because Lance had [31:43.220 -> 31:44.600] some comments about that as well. [31:44.600 -> 31:45.200] But looking at the weekend's pace progression, it was for Ryan Red Bull at the top all weekend Also, the lack of practice is interesting because Lance had some comments about that as well. [31:45.200 -> 31:49.180] But looking at the weekend's pace progression, it was Ferrari and Red Bull at the top all [31:49.180 -> 31:54.120] weekend and McLaren looked like they were in the mix and free practice two with everybody. [31:54.120 -> 31:55.880] Not then to free practice three. [31:55.880 -> 31:58.120] Looks like had a nightmare and then come qualifying. [31:58.120 -> 32:06.080] Yeah, we'll come back to that, but I don't think it was straight forward but on the back foot all weekend Alpine and [32:06.080 -> 32:15.680] my um yeah yeah random fandom man Alpine and Alfa Romeo oh I don't know what the hell happened [32:15.680 -> 32:22.200] to Alpine they were on the podium in the last race yeah and they're sort of chilling in [32:22.200 -> 32:25.880] like 18th 17th maybe it was that engine power maybe they're sort of chilling in like 18th or 17th. Maybe it was that engine power. [32:25.880 -> 32:29.040] Maybe they're missing 100 horsepower to be that fucking slow. [32:29.040 -> 32:33.400] But another thing that makes these gaps look even worse is if you get knocked out in Q1, [32:33.400 -> 32:36.440] you've missed out all the track evolution and you're running hard. [32:36.440 -> 32:38.100] So yeah, fair enough. [32:38.100 -> 32:40.200] But they were absolutely nowhere. [32:40.200 -> 32:45.480] Maybe they just couldn't get the heat in the tire or whatever, or get the performance out [32:45.480 -> 32:46.480] the hard tire they needed. [32:46.480 -> 32:47.480] I don't know. [32:47.480 -> 32:49.840] Why don't you say that they were shitting the race as well to be fair. [32:49.840 -> 32:51.920] Yeah, they were not great. [32:51.920 -> 32:56.920] So I mean, this one retired and nobody even fucking noticed. [32:56.920 -> 32:57.920] I didn't. [32:57.920 -> 33:00.080] I forgot about that, but we're into qualifying now. [33:00.080 -> 33:01.400] Let's talk about it. [33:01.400 -> 33:04.160] Carlos pretty much setting the page for Friday. [33:04.160 -> 33:07.080] Leclerc was in the mix though, and Max look strong. [33:07.080 -> 33:09.640] Checo there, thereabouts, more or less. [33:09.640 -> 33:14.640] A Q1, Alpine were, oh God, atrociously slow. [33:15.880 -> 33:18.200] Even if you put their best two laps together [33:18.200 -> 33:19.840] and cherry pick the pieces, [33:19.840 -> 33:20.960] they didn't make it into Q2. [33:20.960 -> 33:23.140] They were on the struggle bus. [33:24.280 -> 33:25.520] Who did we lose in Q1 then? [33:26.640 -> 33:33.440] Lance Stroll P20, Magnuson P19, Ocon P18, Gasly P17, and Joe P16. [33:34.000 -> 33:38.800] Yeah, and Stroll said there's something up with the car. And if I remember this correctly, [33:38.800 -> 33:48.400] he was like, it's not because I didn't have P1 or P2. There's something not right with this card's performance, which then his teammate gets into Q3 as usual. [33:48.400 -> 33:51.400] So I think probably he's playing that down. [33:51.400 -> 33:54.240] I think Lance does need those laps. [33:54.240 -> 33:57.720] But Q2, I don't remember anything particularly stand out. [33:57.720 -> 34:00.160] We lost Yuki and Lawson, but Lawson, hey, [34:00.160 -> 34:03.160] right, right up to Yuki. [34:03.160 -> 34:06.200] I think he's just like a tenth off of him [34:10.120 -> 34:16.260] Big up the Alpha tower II because like I say p11 and p12 for them That was close to being in q3 which in that much in that fucking car is a miracle in itself [34:16.320 -> 34:21.380] So yeah, they did well there. Yeah, and then we lost the other the other house [34:21.380 -> 34:25.960] We lost the other Alpha and then a Sargent did not make Q3 this time. [34:25.960 -> 34:31.040] He made first American in Q3 in an absolute age the other weekend in Zandvoort before [34:31.040 -> 34:33.400] he stuck it in the wall. [34:33.400 -> 34:36.920] Yep, celebrated by getting into Q3 by binning it. [34:36.920 -> 34:38.880] We've all been there. [34:38.880 -> 34:44.840] Yeah, but I did a little bit of a deep dive on qualifying over on my Buy Me a Coffee. [34:44.840 -> 34:45.760] If you haven't checked that out, [34:45.760 -> 34:47.000] buymeacoffee.com. [34:47.000 -> 34:51.280] It's where if you want even more tech data analysis [34:51.280 -> 34:53.340] and lots of graphs and explanations, [34:53.340 -> 34:54.380] I go into a lot of detail there, [34:54.380 -> 34:57.260] but let's talk about Q3. [34:57.260 -> 35:00.160] Signs, phenomenal qualifying lap. [35:00.160 -> 35:03.620] Ferrari with the super low downforce configuration, [35:03.620 -> 35:05.660] Red Bull with a trimmed medium downforce [35:05.660 -> 35:11.160] rear wing. Great, great lap. They were faster than Red Bull in the straights and slightly [35:11.160 -> 35:16.600] slower in the corners with the exception. Turn four and five on the brakes. So the second [35:16.600 -> 35:22.560] chicane after the curve of Grande, dude, signs was a monster on the brakes there. He put [35:22.560 -> 35:25.600] a 10th on Verstappen and put a 10th on pretty much everybody there. [35:25.600 -> 35:28.280] That's talking about trusting the tires. [35:28.280 -> 35:29.120] You feel the warmup. [35:29.120 -> 35:30.480] Turn one, two was good. [35:31.640 -> 35:34.040] And turn four, five, absolutely hammering the brakes, [35:34.040 -> 35:34.880] getting that. [35:37.400 -> 35:40.160] Leclerc, and also Sainz was benefit [35:40.160 -> 35:41.720] from pretty good positioning. [35:41.720 -> 35:43.760] He had a toe for most of the lap down to, [35:43.760 -> 35:45.000] I think the Ascari chicane. [35:45.000 -> 35:48.860] So he benefit from falling under the car within a couple of seconds, just to give [35:48.860 -> 35:50.760] him that little edge over Leclerc. [35:51.060 -> 35:52.640] Leclerc did not have that toe. [35:53.000 -> 35:57.480] Um, what signs also, and sorry, I just cut you off there. [35:57.540 -> 35:58.600] Just call me the knife. [35:58.720 -> 36:04.520] And, um, Charles had been sort of saying all weekend up to that point that he was [36:04.520 -> 36:05.200] having some problems [36:05.200 -> 36:06.200] with the balance of the car. [36:06.200 -> 36:09.440] He didn't feel 100% with it. [36:09.440 -> 36:13.200] That's super interesting because there were some signs of that in the data. [36:13.200 -> 36:16.320] Maybe it's the same thing LeClaire's talking about, maybe not, but LeClaire didn't have [36:16.320 -> 36:17.720] a toe. [36:17.720 -> 36:23.440] But also signs almost threw it away in the final corner, like Verstappen clawed back [36:23.440 -> 36:25.240] well more than he should have there. [36:25.240 -> 36:27.660] And it looks like Sainz checked up a bit, [36:28.660 -> 36:30.200] killed way too much speed on the entry [36:30.200 -> 36:32.200] and then was really hesitant on throttle. [36:32.200 -> 36:35.840] And I looked at that, I looked at Sainz versus Verstappen. [36:35.840 -> 36:38.200] Sainz was really tentative, like A, [36:38.200 -> 36:39.180] they've got lower down force, [36:39.180 -> 36:40.920] so their traction is a little bit weaker. [36:40.920 -> 36:42.680] So the time it takes them to get full throttle [36:42.680 -> 36:44.160] out of the chicanes was longer, [36:44.160 -> 36:49.360] but the Ascari chicane, Sain quite trusting the throttles ago. Full max [36:49.360 -> 36:54.560] just plant it, Matt it, just fully send it. Also in turn 11, both of the Ferraris were [36:55.520 -> 36:59.760] really tentative getting on throttle and I still feel like that quite pointy nervous [36:59.760 -> 37:05.680] Ferrari is still a thing and then accentuated by having lower downforce, but definitely [37:05.680 -> 37:08.440] definitely think that the low downforce was the right answer. [37:08.440 -> 37:12.720] Like they wouldn't have competed or had a shot at all. [37:12.720 -> 37:13.720] Qualifying results. [37:13.720 -> 37:14.720] What do we got? [37:14.720 -> 37:20.520] Qualifying results, signs P1 poll just a couple hundreds ahead of her. [37:20.520 -> 37:23.440] Stapin Leclerc just behind him. [37:23.440 -> 37:28.680] Super close that all of those guys within 60,000th of a second impressive. [37:28.680 -> 37:31.760] It could have been it could have been any one of them. [37:31.760 -> 37:39.680] Big man Russell, big man Russell three tenths off that Perez right neck and neck with with [37:39.680 -> 37:40.920] the Russell man, isn't he? [37:40.920 -> 37:41.920] Yeah. [37:41.920 -> 37:46.160] And then Alexander Albon another Q Q3 appearance, sending that absolute [37:46.160 -> 37:55.480] boat of a Willys into P6, man. Piastri, Hamilton. Hamilton had a shocker and he was just like [37:55.480 -> 37:59.800] today wasn't the day. His sector one, two was okay. Or sector one was okay. Then sector [37:59.800 -> 38:06.880] two and three, it's just like, not what he wanted. Landon Norris, Fernando Alonso rounding out the top 10. [38:07.160 -> 38:08.160] Alonso p10. [38:09.920 -> 38:13.080] And he was way off half a second off of Norris. [38:14.680 -> 38:18.080] And again, just to hype ourselves up, what did we say last week? [38:18.360 -> 38:20.240] Keep an eye on the Williams in qualifying. [38:21.520 -> 38:26.360] But to be fair, I know we look really clever and shit, but to be fair, I don't ruin [38:26.360 -> 38:31.360] the illusion. I want to. I want to. I want to put some respect on Alex Albon because [38:31.360 -> 38:37.400] you will say it every week. He's driving the absolute wheels off that thing. Getting I [38:37.400 -> 38:43.760] think he's performing miracles in that car. Good for him. I'd love to see Alex Albon doing [38:43.760 -> 38:46.600] well and succeeding. Good on him. And'd love to see Alex Albon doing well and succeeding. Good [38:46.600 -> 38:50.760] on him. And I hope, I hope some other teams are taking notice of his performances. [38:50.760 -> 38:58.160] Yeah, but I also hope that this is a genuine resurgence of Williams. [38:58.160 -> 39:05.600] I'd love to see it. Yeah. You're only as fast as your fastest driver. Any Alex is Alex ain't no slouch. [39:05.600 -> 39:06.440] I'm here for it. [39:07.240 -> 39:07.760] Shall we? [39:07.760 -> 39:10.240] Shall we move on to the Italian Grand Prix? [39:11.340 -> 39:15.240] We will, but I will also mention what we talked about earlier. [39:15.240 -> 39:17.640] The maximum lap time. [39:18.240 -> 39:20.340] Oh, oh, I completely forgot this. [39:20.340 -> 39:22.040] Yeah, I forgot to write it down in the notes. [39:22.080 -> 39:24.040] Not controversial, not controversial. [39:24.040 -> 39:24.740] This one at all. [39:25.800 -> 39:29.720] So Ferrari were too slow on there. [39:29.720 -> 39:34.560] I can't remember which which laps it was because I forgot to write it down, but basically they [39:34.560 -> 39:39.760] fell foul of that rule we were talking about earlier where not parking the car. [39:39.760 -> 39:44.440] You can't do slower than like a it's like a 144 or something and the time lapse of 1 [39:44.440 -> 39:48.400] minute 20. So you had to get a shuffle on no no effing about. [39:48.400 -> 39:50.860] But why did they not get popped for that then? [39:50.860 -> 39:54.820] Because it seemed like it was it did say the stewards would take into consideration the [39:54.820 -> 39:57.700] circumstances so why did they get the pass on this one? [39:57.700 -> 39:58.700] I don't know. [39:58.700 -> 40:00.180] It's basically the answer. [40:00.180 -> 40:01.880] I don't know. [40:01.880 -> 40:08.920] If I if I recall correctly it was basically saying that they were getting the hustle on [40:08.920 -> 40:11.520] and they weren't queuing at the end of the lap. [40:11.520 -> 40:15.200] They were making way for traffic for people in the middle of the lap. [40:15.200 -> 40:16.760] So they're like, Oh, somebody is coming through. [40:16.760 -> 40:18.800] I'm going to park it on the inside of the track. [40:18.800 -> 40:20.280] So I don't impede this guy's lap. [40:20.280 -> 40:22.280] And I think that's probably the right thing to do. [40:22.280 -> 40:27.840] And in the end, I do believe a common sense prevailed with the stewarding and the regulations. [40:27.840 -> 40:29.960] The regulations achieved what they should have done. [40:29.960 -> 40:34.120] We didn't have any car parks and people bowling into turn 11. [40:34.120 -> 40:35.120] So fair enough. [40:35.120 -> 40:37.640] Oh, look, some start a conspiracy theory. [40:37.640 -> 40:41.600] Yeah, Ferrari paid the international assistance. [40:41.600 -> 40:44.560] Yeah, again, send them to the back. [40:44.560 -> 40:46.440] Honestly, 30 30 position penalty. They had to start in Imola. Shame. Yeah, again, send him to the back. Honestly, 30 30 position penalty. [40:46.440 -> 40:47.440] They had to start in Imola. [40:47.440 -> 40:48.120] Shame. [40:49.600 -> 40:50.840] Yeah, I don't know whatever. [40:51.680 -> 40:53.280] However, so there you go. [40:53.320 -> 40:53.880] That's the same. [40:53.880 -> 40:55.400] I'm starting that wild conspiracy. [40:55.760 -> 40:57.720] OK, I'm here for I rate it man. [40:59.560 -> 41:01.080] It's Grand Prix time baby. [41:01.600 -> 41:04.320] How hell yeah, oh hell yeah. [41:08.540 -> 41:09.660] Well, before the race even begins, we fucking lose Yuki. [41:14.980 -> 41:17.380] The somebody chucked a bag of 10 P pieces down his intake and that thing grenaded itself on the formation lap. [41:17.380 -> 41:21.020] Yes, just speaking of conspiracy theories, there's another one. [41:21.180 -> 41:25.260] Red Bull sabotage Yuki's car so they could get two extra laps of fuel [41:25.260 -> 41:26.260] in Max's car. [41:26.260 -> 41:29.240] Oh yeah, that's a that's a thing though. [41:29.240 -> 41:32.840] So those those extra we do three formation laps in the end. [41:32.840 -> 41:38.000] Yuki's car, they had to get the flatbed out because it was that thing was seized up brother. [41:38.000 -> 41:42.940] But a couple extra formation laps saves a lot of fuel. [41:42.940 -> 41:46.000] So the conspiracy theory is that Red Bull massively underfueled [41:46.000 -> 41:49.760] and they blew up Yuki's engine. Yep. In order to not have to save fuel. [41:49.760 -> 41:53.440] And what Marco flipped his red button and said, Yuki, it's time. [41:54.160 -> 41:58.080] Yeah, it was last year is his seat belts and his differential and Zandvoort. [41:58.080 -> 41:59.920] Yuki had to commit Sudoku. [42:10.600 -> 42:12.800] Yeah, he had to do some crossword puzzles for his sins. While he was sitting waiting to be recovered. [42:12.800 -> 42:13.800] Fucking hell. [42:13.800 -> 42:14.800] I love it. [42:14.800 -> 42:15.800] Theory me. [42:15.800 -> 42:20.720] But more worryingly about this, right? [42:20.720 -> 42:22.880] He took a whole new fucking PU this week. [42:22.880 -> 42:28.440] Oh, and it grenaded. So that was in his, though, so he didn't take a grid for it. [42:28.440 -> 42:30.360] But that's that's not be good. [42:30.360 -> 42:34.600] No, and there's no official word on a cause, but apparently a Japanese website is rumoring [42:34.600 -> 42:36.360] it was a piston failure. [42:36.360 -> 42:39.880] Either way, smoke coming out your car is not good. [42:39.880 -> 42:42.680] That is the official engine breaking technical analysis. [42:42.680 -> 42:45.560] But no common love. [42:46.280 -> 42:46.720] Smoke bad. [42:48.920 -> 42:49.000] But here's the thing, though, I don't think this is correct. [42:51.760 -> 42:56.320] I'm not sure if it's correct, but if I recall correctly, since partnering with Red Bull, have Honda slash RDPT had a [42:56.640 -> 42:58.120] catastrophic ice failure? [42:59.360 -> 43:00.640] Oh, good question. [43:00.640 -> 43:05.520] I think I think there have been, if not none, then very, very few, like [43:05.520 -> 43:13.360] a competitively strong few number of catastrophic combustion engine failures for that. So kind [43:13.360 -> 43:18.920] of strong. Did you not visit the Red Bull campus the other week? I did just go sign [43:18.920 -> 43:22.920] do you? Did you fuck you? He's engine. No, I went on a bike ride with some friends at [43:22.920 -> 43:26.200] lunchtime. I didn't. Yeah, I just was like, hey, this is a nice campus. [43:26.200 -> 43:27.200] You got here. [43:27.200 -> 43:30.120] Be ashamed of somebody threw 50 pieces down the intake. [43:30.120 -> 43:33.200] Yeah, honestly, it was us. [43:33.200 -> 43:34.440] They're not letting me in anywhere. [43:34.440 -> 43:36.120] They they know me around there. [43:36.120 -> 43:39.320] Yeah, we are named and sort of. [43:39.320 -> 43:40.320] Yeah. [43:40.320 -> 43:46.000] Yeah, there's I have a story for another day, but I'll get back to that. [43:46.000 -> 43:47.840] Super clean race start though. [43:47.840 -> 43:52.200] There was no shenanigans, nothing bad's ever happened on lap one in Monza ever. [43:52.200 -> 43:53.200] So that's fine. [43:53.200 -> 43:58.220] And the only swap I believe was Albon overtaking Piastri, which was a damn good thing he did [43:58.220 -> 44:02.560] because Albon was the train conductor for another while. [44:02.560 -> 44:03.560] Yep. [44:03.560 -> 44:05.120] Choo choo all aboard the Alex Alvin DRS train. conductor for another while. Yep. [44:07.880 -> 44:09.040] Choo-choo all aboard the Alex Alvin DRS train. [44:09.160 -> 44:11.000] Yeah. He kind of pulled that on for quite a while. [44:11.000 -> 44:12.880] And I was, uh, again, impressive. [44:12.880 -> 44:16.600] His post-race interview, he was talking to, he was on the pen with LeClaire [44:16.960 -> 44:18.160] and they're like, how'd it go? [44:18.160 -> 44:22.480] He's like, Oh yeah, I was ahead of blah, blah, blah, or Piastro Norris. [44:22.480 -> 44:31.840] And he's like, LeClaire was like, were you fast? He's like, no, no, I wasn't. But you know what? Yeah, exactly. Williams being a slippery car, [44:31.840 -> 44:36.880] the McLaren, reasonable top speed. But again, in that Mercedes bunch, lower on the top speed again [44:36.880 -> 44:46.960] this weekend. Let's talk through the race. Let's talk through the first stint. Signs honestly defended like absolute legend to Verstappen. [44:47.600 -> 44:53.080] 15 laps and he tried to kind of like, what was the turn one thing was like, if you go [44:53.080 -> 44:57.160] around the outside of turn one, if you're not ahead by the apex of turn one, like [44:57.160 -> 45:01.240] clearly the other car can see you there, you're getting pushed off at turn two. [45:01.280 -> 45:03.880] You're either, you're getting sent down the escape road. [45:03.920 -> 45:04.160] Yeah. [45:04.160 -> 45:04.760] Every time. [45:04.760 -> 45:10.140] Turn one has been the scene of some crimes in the past and it was pretty much the scene [45:10.140 -> 45:12.280] of some crimes in this race as well. [45:12.280 -> 45:17.400] But turn one, it's like, you know, at the end of the massive straight, there's nowhere [45:17.400 -> 45:19.120] else really you're going to fucking launch it. [45:19.120 -> 45:23.720] So you've got to try it at turn one and it's not the greatest of corners to try and lunge [45:23.720 -> 45:25.280] at, but yeah. [45:25.280 -> 45:32.000] So eventually Max got a go, I believe up the inside of turn one and with the speed and [45:32.000 -> 45:33.580] the overtaking, it was good. [45:33.580 -> 45:37.980] And Leclerc was kind of waiting in that bunch just to see what happened. [45:37.980 -> 45:42.080] You know, Leclerc was not really putting a whole lot of pressure on Verstappen. [45:42.080 -> 45:45.240] Verstappen fully, fully putting pressure on that. [45:45.240 -> 45:48.800] And a lot of people got, they're like, Leclerc is an idiot. [45:49.160 -> 45:50.160] Why didn't Leclerc help? [45:50.160 -> 45:54.600] And I'm on one hand, I'm kind of with Leclerc on that. [45:54.600 -> 45:57.480] I don't know what else they wanted him to do. [45:57.880 -> 45:59.640] Max was very smart about this. [45:59.720 -> 46:03.360] It was only a few laps in and he already radioed into GP saying, yeah, look, [46:03.360 -> 46:04.880] mate, they're sliding everywhere already. [46:05.440 -> 46:08.560] They knew, they knew the tire life wasn't there in the Ferraris. [46:08.560 -> 46:13.400] I just had to chill out, wait for the tires to die and then just basically drift off. [46:14.040 -> 46:16.760] But if you're, if you're Carlos, you're not giving up that position. [46:16.760 -> 46:17.800] This is your home race. [46:17.800 -> 46:20.040] You got a pole, you're fighting tooth and nail. [46:20.040 -> 46:22.840] And if you burn up your tires, fuck it, go again, you know? [46:23.080 -> 46:26.940] But, um, yeah, I mean, but here's what happens, though. [46:27.440 -> 46:28.840] Max overtakes signs. [46:28.840 -> 46:32.800] Signs has done a load of work on his tires. [46:33.560 -> 46:36.800] LeClaire, you know, he was a second and a half behind them, [46:36.800 -> 46:39.800] maybe just in DRS a couple laps, but not really putting too much pressure [46:39.800 -> 46:40.560] on that group. [46:40.560 -> 46:42.360] He was waiting to see what happened. [46:42.360 -> 46:44.440] I I don't blame him. [46:48.780 -> 46:51.920] But signs falls back and he's bleeding lap time. Like he's science is the same pace after Max gets past him. [46:52.260 -> 46:54.920] Science is the same pace as Valtteri Bottas back. [46:55.320 -> 46:58.280] Some, you know, he's, he's a pit stop behind them already. [46:58.480 -> 46:59.500] And he's going that pace. [46:59.500 -> 47:03.200] He's gone from race leader to back of the midfield pace. [47:03.240 -> 47:03.600] Oh yeah. [47:03.600 -> 47:06.640] Max was like pulling away like what a second a lap or something ridiculous. [47:06.640 -> 47:13.560] Yeah. It was crazy. So instead, and my, my first reaction was if Ferrari let Leclerc [47:13.560 -> 47:17.680] through and he can hang on to Verstappen because Sainz's tires are spent, they could do something [47:17.680 -> 47:21.920] with this. They're not going to challenge Max. They know that Leclerc knows that. Otherwise [47:21.920 -> 47:25.240] Leclerc would have burned up some tires. I think Leclerc played that one smart [47:25.240 -> 47:27.080] and Sainz did what he had to. [47:27.080 -> 47:30.560] But I really feel like the Ferrari pit wall, [47:30.560 -> 47:33.080] if they wanted to get more points out of this weekend, [47:33.080 -> 47:34.440] they could have intervened. [47:34.440 -> 47:36.040] They could have intervened and they chose not to. [47:36.040 -> 47:36.960] Yeah, I don't know. [47:36.960 -> 47:39.200] Shoulda, woulda, coulda, isn't it really? [47:39.200 -> 47:41.680] I will say though, for Sainz's first pit stop, [47:41.680 -> 47:44.120] I rewatched the race this morning [47:44.120 -> 47:46.720] just to sort of take it in again and [47:46.720 -> 47:52.800] I loved this shithousery from Red Bull where, because the Red Bull and Ferrari garages are [47:52.800 -> 47:59.040] next to each other, the second Sainz pulled off to come into the pit lane everyone in Red Bull [47:59.040 -> 48:04.320] pulled out as if they were doing a stop. So Carlos had no choice but to do an extra sort of go around [48:04.320 -> 48:05.800] them to get into his box. [48:06.240 -> 48:09.440] And then as soon as it before it even stopped, the red ball walked back into the [48:09.440 -> 48:12.600] garage. I was like, that is pure shithousery and I love it. [48:13.400 -> 48:16.920] It was like, we're going to we're going to try and psych him out just by getting out as soon as he [48:16.920 -> 48:18.200] tries to come into the pit box. [48:18.200 -> 48:19.160] I thought that was brilliant. [48:19.760 -> 48:28.120] I think potentially what that could have been also is a opposite signs call for Perez at [48:28.120 -> 48:29.240] that point. [48:29.240 -> 48:36.320] Because also that was the lap that signs pits is the lap that Perez is set free from Russell. [48:36.320 -> 48:39.720] So I think that was viable, but at the same time, I'm here for that theory. [48:39.720 -> 48:41.240] That works so much better for me. [48:41.240 -> 48:43.400] Yeah, I'm going for the shit house theory. [48:43.400 -> 48:44.400] Yeah. [48:44.400 -> 48:48.120] So also an instant one that Perez is like Russell pushed me off. [48:48.120 -> 48:48.520] It's like. [48:49.440 -> 48:52.760] I turn one, it's like, yeah, mate, just take the escape road, [48:52.760 -> 48:53.840] tuck back in and go again. [48:53.840 -> 48:55.000] He eventually gets him. [48:56.680 -> 49:00.560] Overtaking on the outside of turn one just wasn't on unless you're ahead, really. [49:02.320 -> 49:04.960] But yeah, like realistically, we'll come, we'll come back to it, but. [49:06.200 -> 49:09.500] Could have, should have, would have, but like, honestly, I don't, I don't even think that's could have should [49:09.500 -> 49:10.500] have would have territory. [49:10.500 -> 49:14.900] Leclerc had saved tires so that he could have a go. [49:14.900 -> 49:19.140] The reason they didn't pit signs immediately after they saw him bleeding lap time is because [49:19.140 -> 49:21.460] they were worried about the gap to Bottas. [49:21.460 -> 49:27.200] And if you'd come out behind Bottas on new tires and not been able to overtake him, that would have been an absolute disaster. [49:27.800 -> 49:31.600] But I really, I don't know, it bums me out on one hand, but. [49:33.100 -> 49:37.440] Well, we'll get into this for the random fandom because I wrote the note there, [49:37.440 -> 49:41.480] but one of the Ferrari drivers was questioning, perhaps maybe doing the two [49:41.480 -> 49:41.760] stop. [49:43.960 -> 49:44.940] I can't remember which one it was. [49:44.940 -> 49:47.560] It's in my notes further down, but yeah, yeah. [49:47.560 -> 49:51.800] So what that saying is, hey, would you like to just lose a random 24 seconds of race time? [49:51.800 -> 49:53.960] Yeah, sure, let's do that. [49:53.960 -> 49:59.920] So second stint, the second stint really, uh, not too crazy for me. [49:59.920 -> 50:05.120] What we had Russell try to overtake was an Alpine and go off the track. [50:07.240 -> 50:08.340] And he's like, oh, he pushed me off and he just kept the track position and didn't give it back. [50:08.340 -> 50:09.640] And we saw other people do that. [50:09.900 -> 50:13.540] We saw, uh, was it one of the McLarens try that and they gave the position back? [50:13.540 -> 50:14.880] They're like, yeah. [50:14.960 -> 50:15.280] Yeah. [50:15.280 -> 50:16.280] Maybe it was Lando. [50:16.280 -> 50:17.200] I can't remember now. [50:17.280 -> 50:20.280] Um, but the George Russell penalty was so nailed on. [50:21.180 -> 50:23.600] Like when I watched it again this morning, I was like, why have you [50:23.600 -> 50:28.880] just driven off into the sunset? Like, yeah, dude, literally you're going to get done for that. They didn't push [50:28.880 -> 50:34.360] you off. You ha you didn't have a shot at getting us alongside for turn two. Just go [50:34.360 -> 50:39.520] again. You're faster than whoever it was. Yeah. I think it was a brand in the chat thinks [50:39.520 -> 50:45.960] it was all gone, but we had another penalty for the Mercedes. They were racking up some freaking points. Hamilton on Piastri. [50:45.960 -> 50:51.240] So later in the race, in stint two, we've got Hamilton. [50:51.240 -> 50:55.800] He comes out at his stop just near Alonso and he's got to close up some gap. [50:55.800 -> 51:00.200] And there's this train of Albon, Norris, Piastri. [51:00.200 -> 51:06.800] And around lap 40, Hamilton comes up on Piastri alongside him. [51:07.040 -> 51:10.800] They're side by side going through turn three, comes down to turn four, [51:11.160 -> 51:13.760] and Hamilton moves over, clips his front wing. [51:14.440 -> 51:15.640] Piastri had nowhere to go. [51:15.880 -> 51:20.160] And afterwards, even on the radio, I think Hamilton was like, yep, fuck that one up. [51:20.280 -> 51:21.240] And it's like, yeah, it's fine. [51:21.320 -> 51:28.400] So Piastri does an extra stop that costs him easily four or five spots. [51:28.400 -> 51:30.560] Yeah, it takes some contention. [51:30.560 -> 51:34.320] But yeah, like you said, Hamilton was very apologetic after the race. [51:34.320 -> 51:35.920] The first thing he said was like, yeah, that was my fault. [51:35.920 -> 51:36.800] I fucked up. [51:36.800 -> 51:37.520] So, yeah. [51:38.080 -> 51:45.160] Yeah, but to be fair, I mean, Russell, five second penalty, no impact on his race. [51:45.160 -> 51:51.320] Hamilton clears the McLaren group and Albon, no impact on his race, five seconds clear. [51:51.320 -> 51:52.440] So fair enough. [51:52.440 -> 51:57.520] I think it was just unfortunate and I think everybody played pretty nicely. [51:57.520 -> 52:00.200] So yeah, fair enough. [52:00.200 -> 52:03.480] I think Russell's move potentially was deliberate. [52:03.480 -> 52:08.560] It's like he thought I can make up five seconds quite fucking easily. [52:08.560 -> 52:11.960] I'm not going to waste time handing this back sort of thing. [52:11.960 -> 52:12.480] Yeah, maybe. [52:12.480 -> 52:14.400] Yeah, I think. [52:14.400 -> 52:16.400] Yeah, I can't see anything else. [52:16.400 -> 52:18.480] Or yeah, but nah. [52:18.480 -> 52:20.200] Yeah, the Russell thing. [52:20.200 -> 52:22.880] As soon as I saw it, I was just like, what the fuck was that? [52:22.880 -> 52:25.080] Yeah, maybe he thought, fuck it. I was just like what the fuck was that? [52:25.080 -> 52:28.440] Maybe he thought fuck it I can just make the five seconds easy enough I don't care sort [52:28.440 -> 52:29.440] of thing I don't know. [52:29.440 -> 52:35.520] Yeah here's a good one I forgot who it was with but it was to Lando. [52:35.520 -> 52:37.560] It was when they were stuck behind Albon. [52:37.560 -> 52:43.280] Yeah it's like opposite Albon and it's like what that basically says if Albon doesn't [52:43.280 -> 52:45.400] pit you pit and they bring the guys out into [52:45.400 -> 52:52.280] the pit lane and I'm like mate what would we like 1015 laps from the end of the race? [52:52.280 -> 52:58.720] What are you going to do like just lose 24 seconds and fall back behind? [52:58.720 -> 53:03.480] Yeah well he lost or the fall back behind Lawson and the other bots as I was like what [53:03.480 -> 53:04.480] are you going to do this? [53:04.480 -> 53:08.240] No way McLaren came on the radio like box to overtake. [53:08.280 -> 53:09.720] Who the fuck are you overtaking? [53:09.720 -> 53:11.160] Like, what else? [53:11.160 -> 53:13.680] Just like, maybe if you want a box, you can fucking box. [53:13.680 -> 53:14.040] I don't know. [53:14.040 -> 53:15.640] Yeah, no one is threatened by that. [53:15.640 -> 53:17.720] Like, what was that box to lose? [53:17.720 -> 53:19.680] 24 seconds box to lose 24 seconds. [53:19.720 -> 53:20.800] Uh, no, I'll pass. [53:21.480 -> 53:23.480] Um, at the end of the race. [53:23.800 -> 53:28.080] So the Red Bull Ferrari thing goes something like, we'll go back to [53:28.080 -> 53:31.360] the start of this because Verstappen's off in the distance and he ends up looking like [53:31.360 -> 53:34.520] he has to manage some issue, either engine or brake temperatures or something. [53:34.520 -> 53:39.160] He bleeds a lot of lap time, but we've basically got this Sainz-Leclerc-Pérez train through [53:39.160 -> 53:41.160] the whole second stint. [53:41.160 -> 53:45.000] Eventually it's probably, what, 10 1015 laps or so. [53:46.440 -> 53:47.560] Perez gets past Leclerc, [53:47.560 -> 53:50.200] but Leclerc is able to hold on to Sainz. [53:50.200 -> 53:54.360] Perez at this point, lap 30 or so, Sainz's pace is good. [53:54.360 -> 53:56.360] It's not too far off of Verstappen, [53:56.360 -> 53:59.880] but as soon as Perez starts putting pressure on Sainz, [53:59.880 -> 54:02.720] Sainz loses so much lap time. [54:02.720 -> 54:05.440] And it was weird because Leclerc didn't do that. [54:05.440 -> 54:09.000] And maybe it's because the tires are, you know, 10, 15 laps old at this point. [54:09.000 -> 54:10.000] Fine. [54:10.000 -> 54:15.600] But as soon as Paris comes through on signs, signs just backs up into Leclerc and Leclerc [54:15.600 -> 54:16.920] is having a couple of looks at him. [54:16.920 -> 54:19.560] And the pit wall says, no risks. [54:19.560 -> 54:23.600] You're free to race, but do not take any risks as Leclerc locks up massively, almost slides [54:23.600 -> 54:24.600] into him. [54:24.600 -> 54:26.000] I rate it. Honestly, I rate it. But do not take any risks as LeClaire locks up massively, almost slides into him. [54:26.000 -> 54:27.000] I rate it. [54:27.000 -> 54:28.000] Honestly, I rate it. [54:28.000 -> 54:31.820] And you know, on one hand, bucket man, let him race. [54:31.820 -> 54:35.840] But did anybody watching this, if you saw this, leave a comment. [54:35.840 -> 54:40.320] Did you see Lawson's send from like 40, 50 meters back into turn one, I think on the [54:40.320 -> 54:41.320] Haas. [54:41.320 -> 54:42.320] I was like, damn. [54:42.320 -> 54:43.320] Yeah. [54:43.320 -> 54:45.160] Liam Lawson [54:45.160 -> 54:46.880] has prepared that one since Zandvoort [54:46.920 -> 54:48.680] made that's how far away he sent it. [54:49.280 -> 54:51.120] Yeah, is is fucking wild, [54:51.120 -> 54:52.520] but that was that was a good move. [54:52.560 -> 54:53.520] Super confident, [54:53.520 -> 54:54.960] made the corner perfectly, [54:55.280 -> 54:56.960] easily got past the Haas who [54:57.000 -> 54:58.440] both of them finish a lap down. [54:58.440 -> 54:59.960] It was not a good day [55:00.320 -> 55:01.920] for the Haas cars. [55:03.080 -> 55:06.000] Yeah, Max Magnuson said post race. He was like and he goes, I think this is the worstas cars. Oof. Yeah, Magnuson said post race, he was like, [55:06.000 -> 55:08.000] he goes, I think this is the worst race ever. [55:08.000 -> 55:10.000] No disrespect to Haas, [55:10.000 -> 55:13.000] but I'm pretty sure they say that nearly every fucking race now. [55:13.000 -> 55:15.000] It's a tough time for that car. [55:15.000 -> 55:18.000] Clearly, they're not matching the development rate of the other teams. [55:18.000 -> 55:21.000] And that scrap towards the back. [55:21.000 -> 55:22.000] Oof. [55:22.000 -> 55:23.000] It's difficult, man. [55:23.000 -> 55:24.000] It's really difficult. [55:24.000 -> 55:28.400] And I feel for him. I remember working at Force India when we were back at the back of the shed. [55:28.400 -> 55:29.800] I was just happy to be there at the time. [55:29.800 -> 55:31.200] I was like, I don't really care. [55:31.200 -> 55:33.320] I'm just here to have fun. [55:33.320 -> 55:37.360] But I don't think I don't think Haas is having much fun right now, honestly. [55:37.360 -> 55:38.360] No, I'm. [55:38.360 -> 55:39.360] Is it controversial? [55:39.360 -> 55:40.360] No, I don't think so. [55:40.360 -> 55:44.440] I think Gene Haas should fucking just sell that team to someone who's willing to invest [55:44.440 -> 55:45.440] proper money into it. [55:46.960 -> 55:50.600] I, I feel like there's a nail and you've hit it right on the head. [55:50.640 -> 55:53.160] I don't really see what the point of that team is at the minute. [55:53.760 -> 55:55.680] No, no, they need to make a step. [55:55.680 -> 55:57.920] And yeah, they definitely need to make a step. [55:57.920 -> 56:01.760] So post race notes, man, pace ranking. [56:02.000 -> 56:06.480] I think it was Red Bull, Ferrari, Mercedes, McLaren, Aston in that order, [56:06.480 -> 56:10.920] but Albon scoring a P7. [56:10.920 -> 56:12.720] Really benefiting from a great [56:12.720 -> 56:14.080] qualifying performance and the [56:14.140 -> 56:15.320] cars slippery nature, [56:15.320 -> 56:18.160] but props to Albon for driving [56:18.160 -> 56:19.320] that car up to P7. [56:22.480 -> 56:23.520] We kind of talked about it. [56:23.520 -> 56:25.840] Was the Ferrari P2 or race win on the cards? [56:25.840 -> 56:31.520] Because I had some people on Twitter after my tweet from the buy me a coffee slide, a [56:31.520 -> 56:32.520] little preview on Twitter. [56:32.520 -> 56:34.560] So if you're not following me on Twitter, get involved. [56:34.560 -> 56:36.120] It's not all shit hounds on there. [56:36.120 -> 56:41.560] But I had some people telling me that the Claire's selfishness costs signs the race [56:41.560 -> 56:43.040] win. [56:43.040 -> 56:46.880] And I had to wonder if maybe they need their water supply checked for [56:46.880 -> 56:49.240] heavy metals or hallucinations. [56:50.900 -> 56:51.520] I don't see that. [56:51.760 -> 56:52.720] Not in any world. [56:52.720 -> 56:53.280] Is that happening? [56:53.280 -> 56:55.800] No, it's not something that immediately sticks out to me. [56:55.960 -> 56:58.080] Uh, I don't know. [56:58.520 -> 57:08.520] Uh, I think maybe if they inverted the cars, soon as Max overtook Sainz, I don't know if [57:08.520 -> 57:10.600] that would have translated to a P2. [57:10.600 -> 57:14.440] I don't know, but I think they lost some time there. [57:14.440 -> 57:20.320] Um, but I think Ferrari were quite content just to take third and fourth. [57:20.320 -> 57:26.140] I don't think in any, apart from a DNF for like Max, I don't think they actually expected [57:26.140 -> 57:27.140] to win that race. [57:27.140 -> 57:28.140] Now, I don't think so. [57:28.140 -> 57:31.760] I don't think the pit wall thought that was even possible, but I will say and I've actually [57:31.760 -> 57:36.300] just finished recording a video which is going to be live on break F1 on YouTube tomorrow. [57:36.300 -> 57:40.120] If you're not subscribed to that channel, do be sure to follow it. [57:40.120 -> 57:42.400] I'll give you the TLDR of that one. [57:42.400 -> 57:48.000] I really think that inverting the cars like you said, could have given Ferrari a 2-4 instead [57:48.000 -> 57:49.240] of a 3-4. [57:49.240 -> 57:53.800] If Leclerc had pushed more, I think that's a slam dunk P3-P4. [57:53.800 -> 57:55.520] But here's the interesting thing, though. [57:55.520 -> 57:59.680] The difference between a 2-4 and a 3-4 is what, three points, I think? [57:59.680 -> 58:01.120] Something like that. [58:01.120 -> 58:04.120] Yeah, is it 18 for P2, 15 for P3? [58:04.120 -> 58:08.000] It's not like we've got a combined 12 years of experience in F1, is it? [58:08.000 -> 58:13.200] No, but like, you know, when you think about that, that's, you know, that's, that's only [58:13.200 -> 58:18.880] a couple of points, but they're something like 50 points behind Mercedes, 40 something [58:18.880 -> 58:21.800] points behind Mercedes, and there's eight races to go. [58:21.800 -> 58:25.460] You know, this, this kind of three points here and there can make the difference. [58:25.460 -> 58:28.240] And yes, Ferrari have made a lot of blunders this season. [58:28.480 -> 58:29.260] Was this a blunder? [58:29.260 -> 58:33.200] No, I think they did a pretty damn good job, but you don't want to be doing a [58:33.200 -> 58:34.140] pretty damn good job. [58:34.140 -> 58:36.460] You want to be doing the bestest job. [58:36.620 -> 58:39.300] They've overtaken Aston Martin in the standings now. [58:39.500 -> 58:41.220] So into P2. [58:44.500 -> 58:47.300] Which I'm surprised Aston held on to that for so long, actually. [58:47.340 -> 58:51.140] Yeah, but like they've really, they've really dropped the ball since Canada. [58:51.140 -> 58:54.420] And Alonso had a good result in Zandvoort on the podium again. [58:54.420 -> 58:54.900] Great. [58:54.900 -> 58:59.060] But, uh, you, you, so we, we had this little bit of banter going on Twitter, uh, [58:59.460 -> 59:02.700] before the, yesterdays, but Sir said, just let them race. [59:03.220 -> 59:03.420] Yeah. [59:04.300 -> 59:04.620] Yeah. [59:04.620 -> 59:05.120] I honestly, I was here for the entertainment, but at the same time, or yesterday is the suicide. Just let them race. Yeah. Yeah. [59:10.360 -> 59:13.680] Honestly, I was here for the entertainment, but at the same time, I think the spirit doesn't want to get involved in that shit fight at the track at the home [59:13.720 -> 59:18.240] of Ferrari, you know, like if you, if you team order one of those guys and it [59:18.240 -> 59:21.800] doesn't go right, you, you might not get out of that car park alive. [59:21.800 -> 59:24.820] I think that was self-preservation more than like, Oh, I hope [59:24.820 -> 59:26.160] the fans had a good time. [59:27.080 -> 59:30.360] Yeah, but the Oris battling were probably the most exciting [59:30.360 -> 59:32.280] part of the fucking race, to be honest. [59:32.280 -> 59:33.120] Yeah. [59:33.120 -> 59:35.040] But a lot of people, like I said, [59:35.040 -> 59:38.720] I put this tweet out saying I rate Fred for saying, [59:38.720 -> 59:40.160] just fuck it, let him get on with it [59:40.160 -> 59:42.000] to give people something to watch. [59:42.000 -> 59:43.440] And a lot of people came back and said, [59:43.440 -> 59:46.720] oh, well, I bet if, [59:51.040 -> 59:57.600] if Charles was the lead car, he probably would have come on the radio and told signs to hold off. Now I, I am not an expert in Ferrari relations, so I can't confirm nor deny whether [59:57.600 -> 01:00:02.400] that's the case, but I don't know. You can get a degree in that in the University of Maranello, [01:00:02.400 -> 01:00:05.400] by the way. Oh, and do I have to drive there in a Fiat Panda. [01:00:05.880 -> 01:00:06.400] Yeah, you do. [01:00:06.440 -> 01:00:06.780] Sweet. [01:00:06.780 -> 01:00:07.200] I'm ready. [01:00:07.760 -> 01:00:07.920] Yeah. [01:00:07.920 -> 01:00:08.240] Yeah. [01:00:08.240 -> 01:00:10.600] If they would have won, you also said that you were going to drive to [01:00:10.600 -> 01:00:12.120] for a Ferrari, weren't you? [01:00:12.160 -> 01:00:12.440] Yeah. [01:00:12.440 -> 01:00:13.040] Well, I will. [01:00:13.040 -> 01:00:14.880] I, I, you knew that was going to happen. [01:00:14.880 -> 01:00:15.080] Did you? [01:00:15.080 -> 01:00:15.160] Yeah. [01:00:15.160 -> 01:00:16.680] We'll talk about this in the random fandom. [01:00:16.680 -> 01:00:17.560] Cause I have a Ferrari. [01:00:18.320 -> 01:00:18.680] Okay. [01:00:18.680 -> 01:00:19.040] Okay. [01:00:20.520 -> 01:00:22.720] Oh, but yeah, I I'm with you, man. [01:00:22.760 -> 01:00:24.760] Like it was exciting to watch them race. [01:00:24.760 -> 01:00:27.240] And if the positions were inverted, I don't think [01:00:27.240 -> 01:00:30.320] Leclerc would have fared any better than Carlos did. [01:00:30.320 -> 01:00:35.040] I do think that Leclerc was a little bit kinder on his tires this weekend, but they were getting [01:00:35.040 -> 01:00:36.040] passed. [01:00:36.040 -> 01:00:37.680] They weren't winning the race. [01:00:37.680 -> 01:00:40.760] Maybe a P2 was on the cards, but definitely not a win. [01:00:40.760 -> 01:00:42.560] Yeah, a bomb. [01:00:42.560 -> 01:00:43.560] Our DNF. [01:00:43.560 -> 01:00:44.560] Yeah. [01:00:44.560 -> 01:00:47.400] Now here's let's touch on one other post race note. [01:00:47.400 -> 01:00:51.960] And Toto was interviewed and they put the microphone in front of opposing [01:00:51.960 -> 01:00:54.280] rivals faces and asked them questions. [01:00:54.280 -> 01:00:59.360] And it was something like, you know, somebody asked Toto, what do you think of Max [01:00:59.360 -> 01:01:04.760] Verstappen's record breaking 10 in a row as he's beat Sebastian Vettel had nine in a [01:01:04.760 -> 01:01:05.680] row. Max has now done 10 race wins in a row. As he's beat, Sebastian Vettel had nine in a row. [01:01:05.680 -> 01:01:07.840] Max has now done 10 race wins in a row [01:01:07.840 -> 01:01:08.880] and it's still going. [01:01:09.760 -> 01:01:11.240] And then Toto just replies, [01:01:11.240 -> 01:01:12.320] I believe this is a direct quote, [01:01:12.320 -> 01:01:13.600] our situation was a little bit different [01:01:13.600 -> 01:01:15.800] because we had two guys fighting against each other [01:01:15.800 -> 01:01:17.000] within the team. [01:01:17.000 -> 01:01:18.740] I don't know if he cares about the records. [01:01:18.740 -> 01:01:20.840] It's not something that would be important for me, [01:01:20.840 -> 01:01:22.800] those numbers, it's for Wikipedia [01:01:22.800 -> 01:01:24.480] and nobody reads that anyway. [01:01:24.480 -> 01:01:29.420] Me personally, I'm offended because I would not survive without Wikipedia, but I do feel [01:01:29.420 -> 01:01:33.580] like they do care about those things because the, you know, when Lewis hit his hundred [01:01:33.580 -> 01:01:37.000] win anniversary, that's pretty spectacular event. [01:01:37.000 -> 01:01:41.460] But does that mean anything in terms of monetary or championships or anything else? [01:01:41.460 -> 01:01:43.260] No, it's a Wikipedia number. [01:01:43.260 -> 01:01:46.380] I'm so fucking confused by this because I can't tell if this is [01:01:46.380 -> 01:01:51.100] Toto trying to be humorous and it not working, uh, because he, [01:01:51.280 -> 01:01:54.100] because he hasn't got that, uh, that shit. [01:01:54.100 -> 01:01:56.720] He hasn't got that shit house where he stayed. [01:01:56.720 -> 01:02:00.420] It's like Christian has, or if this is just him genuinely sort [01:02:00.420 -> 01:02:03.580] of coming out with a stinker, I'm, I'm more confused about this [01:02:03.580 -> 01:02:25.960] whole episode than anything. I just, I don't really understand what he was talking about. Yeah. the Who knows what super like he needs to go to the doctor and make sure he doesn't have sodium poisoning from all that. Holy shit [01:02:26.540 -> 01:02:31.180] Yeah, I will give him the benefit of the doubt, but if he steps out of line one more time [01:02:32.720 -> 01:02:37.400] Yeah, no, actually no, he's quite tall any was he like six foot so he can beat the show [01:02:37.920 -> 01:02:41.120] He's a bit of a baby unit. Oh, yeah, maybe maybe I won't [01:02:41.960 -> 01:02:45.840] Yeah, but um, yeah, so there's also another big controversy. [01:02:46.240 -> 01:02:48.040] Science got robbed at the race. [01:02:48.040 -> 01:02:48.520] Now I'm just kidding. [01:02:48.520 -> 01:02:50.880] He got robbed after the race, though, for sure. [01:02:50.880 -> 01:02:53.560] Some some jokers mugged him and stole his. [01:02:53.760 -> 01:02:55.480] It tried to steal his Richard Mille watch. [01:02:55.480 -> 01:03:00.280] And those things, I think some of the less expensive ones are like 50K. [01:03:00.640 -> 01:03:05.840] But the the better, the more expensive versions of those are 200 to 500,000 euros. [01:03:05.840 -> 01:03:06.360] Those are... [01:03:06.360 -> 01:03:07.680] Yeah, this one was half a mil. [01:03:08.120 -> 01:03:13.080] Yeah, so that is mine and Dan's houses, basically, probably. [01:03:13.080 -> 01:03:14.440] And his shed as well. [01:03:14.440 -> 01:03:16.320] Yeah, with Stephenage, that's like 10 of my houses. [01:03:16.320 -> 01:03:17.320] Fucking hell. [01:03:17.320 -> 01:03:22.480] Okay, well, yeah, so somebody mugged signs for 10 of his houses, [01:03:22.480 -> 01:03:25.920] but apparently signs chased after him and the coppers got him. [01:03:25.920 -> 01:03:29.040] So you got that watch back, but that's not cool. [01:03:29.040 -> 01:03:32.440] Did this not also happen earlier in the season to Charles? [01:03:32.440 -> 01:03:34.400] It's happened several times. [01:03:34.400 -> 01:03:39.840] Moral of the story is, wear Richard Mele, get your wrist. [01:03:39.840 -> 01:03:41.480] That's why I don't own one. [01:03:41.480 -> 01:03:42.480] Yeah, me too. [01:03:42.480 -> 01:03:44.080] The constant fear of theft. [01:03:44.080 -> 01:03:45.600] Look at this cute little fit bit. [01:03:45.600 -> 01:03:48.680] I look like an 80 year old grandma trying to keep her steps in. [01:03:48.680 -> 01:03:54.000] Oh, Lando's been robbed as well, says Arash. [01:03:54.000 -> 01:03:58.280] Yeah, he got Wembley I think when he watched the football. [01:03:58.280 -> 01:03:59.280] But anyway. [01:03:59.280 -> 01:04:00.280] I don't even know. [01:04:00.280 -> 01:04:01.280] I don't fucking have a watch, mate. [01:04:01.280 -> 01:04:04.160] I don't need to know how out of touch I am with the time. [01:04:04.160 -> 01:04:08.560] That's fine. Well, why don't we get into the next segment of our podcast and we've been looking forward [01:04:08.560 -> 01:04:09.560] to it. [01:04:09.560 -> 01:04:10.880] Go for it. [01:04:10.880 -> 01:04:11.880] This is you, you have this one. [01:04:11.880 -> 01:04:12.880] Oh yeah I do. [01:04:12.880 -> 01:04:13.880] No, oh fuck's sake. [01:04:13.880 -> 01:04:14.880] Alright, take two. [01:04:14.880 -> 01:04:34.680] Random fandom. Through the power of editing, which I'm not going to do, Rory has also just said that [01:04:34.680 -> 01:04:40.640] Alfa Romeo sponsor Stake has just this second announced that they've had $41 million stolen [01:04:40.640 -> 01:04:41.640] in hacking. [01:04:41.640 -> 01:04:45.020] Stake, the crypto gambling website. [01:04:45.200 -> 01:04:48.640] Yeah, the gambling website who also sponsor [01:04:49.360 -> 01:04:52.600] who are also kick as well, which is they basically like we can't [01:04:52.680 -> 01:04:55.200] advertise gambling on this car in most of the places. [01:04:55.200 -> 01:04:59.880] We'll just use our other company kick, which is basically a the Twitch [01:04:59.880 -> 01:05:03.280] crypto gambling website where everybody went after Twitch cracked down on him. [01:05:03.280 -> 01:05:04.760] But anyway, holy crap. [01:05:04.760 -> 01:05:08.200] Breaking news from where he talks up 141 milli. [01:05:08.760 -> 01:05:10.160] Yeah, $41 million. [01:05:11.120 -> 01:05:13.760] So I guess my kick partner contracts not coming through. [01:05:14.040 -> 01:05:19.120] And while we're talking about it, fuck, who's the crypto sponsor of Alpine? [01:05:19.120 -> 01:05:19.520] Is it? [01:05:19.600 -> 01:05:20.880] Uh, it's it. [01:05:20.880 -> 01:05:21.440] Binance. [01:05:21.600 -> 01:05:22.160] Binance. [01:05:22.160 -> 01:05:27.000] Yeah, they just had a SEC legal case raised against them as well. [01:05:27.000 -> 01:05:30.000] So, things are looking up for crypto in F1. [01:05:30.000 -> 01:05:34.000] Big up, big up, big up, Dogecoin. [01:05:34.000 -> 01:05:35.000] The moon. [01:05:35.000 -> 01:05:37.000] Get your engine breaking coin now. [01:05:37.000 -> 01:05:42.000] So, this is the random fandom segment, and I've got Alfa Romeo, so they get an immediate F [01:05:42.000 -> 01:05:46.160] for their sponsor's parent getting absolutely boasted [01:05:46.160 -> 01:05:47.640] for a bit of cheese. [01:05:47.640 -> 01:05:51.480] But I didn't even know Alfa Romeo or in Monza this weekend. [01:05:51.480 -> 01:05:53.760] Honestly, my honest report on them. [01:05:53.760 -> 01:05:57.520] They were back in the field throughout the weekend show knocked out in Q1 Bottas knocked [01:05:57.520 -> 01:05:59.280] out at the back of Q2. [01:05:59.280 -> 01:06:00.280] Just not that fast. [01:06:00.280 -> 01:06:01.280] Bottas decent race. [01:06:01.280 -> 01:06:07.760] Honestly, a good race for Bottas P14 up to P10 show only improving P. [01:06:07.760 -> 01:06:14.200] 18 to P17, which is I think as a result of Sonata's retirement. [01:06:14.200 -> 01:06:15.600] They get a D. [01:06:15.600 -> 01:06:21.720] Because boss has got a single point otherwise to big F for them and the only team that struggled [01:06:21.720 -> 01:06:26.520] I think more than them this weekend other than Alpine again was the Haas, which went from bad to worse. [01:06:26.520 -> 01:06:30.200] So my rating for Alfa Romeo this weekend, unfortunately, is... [01:06:30.200 -> 01:06:32.080] Nick, so good. [01:06:32.080 -> 01:06:35.640] I will give them an honorary 2-2 for the livery. [01:06:35.640 -> 01:06:37.800] I thought that looked really nice. [01:06:37.800 -> 01:06:38.800] That was very good. [01:06:38.800 -> 01:06:44.480] I like the Ferrari Monza livery, but I think the Alfa Romeo one was actually quite beautiful. [01:06:44.480 -> 01:06:46.400] Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. [01:06:46.400 -> 01:06:50.360] Right, sorry, who did I have? [01:06:50.360 -> 01:06:51.360] Ferrari. [01:06:51.360 -> 01:06:53.520] Right, we've mostly talked about this, but we'll go through it again. [01:06:53.520 -> 01:06:58.800] So we know they took a new PU for both cars this weekend, which would have helped them [01:06:58.800 -> 01:07:02.920] looking quick all Friday, but their race sims, now this is why I wasn't too concerned and [01:07:02.920 -> 01:07:07.460] I made this ridiculous bet, their race sims compared to Red Bull showed they were still behind and [01:07:07.980 -> 01:07:11.700] Charles was saying he was struggling with a car balance. So we get around to qualifying [01:07:12.580 -> 01:07:19.700] Signs P1 Charles P3 Charles said, you know, he was still struggling making setup changes in FP3 and the car still felt inconsistent [01:07:20.180 -> 01:07:22.520] They were constantly top of the speed trap figures [01:07:22.780 -> 01:07:25.680] But Red Bull, specifically Marco, [01:07:25.680 -> 01:07:30.240] shit out and said they admitted that they've aimed more for a race setup. [01:07:30.240 -> 01:07:35.440] So that's when the Ferrari dream was sort of over for me. [01:07:35.440 -> 01:07:37.680] Because the Ferrari's got like two key strengths, right? [01:07:37.680 -> 01:07:42.040] And that's good straight line speed and slow corner balance. [01:07:42.040 -> 01:07:46.040] Ferrari went for like a real low downforce rear wing, which is great for single [01:07:46.040 -> 01:07:51.280] lap pace, but bad for the race because it brings a tyre wear penalty. And lo and behold, [01:07:51.280 -> 01:07:56.680] we get to the race and Sainz has a good start, kept Mac behind for a while. But then, you [01:07:56.680 -> 01:08:00.200] know, the tyres go off and the superior race pace of the Red Bull means you drop down to [01:08:00.200 -> 01:08:06.480] P3, had a little battle with Charles and they finished P3, P4. My note here says, [01:08:06.480 -> 01:08:11.280] could they have done better? Not sure. Carlos said post-race the one stop was right on the limit in [01:08:11.280 -> 01:08:16.880] terms of tyre wear for him. And I said, would have been interesting to see what a two-stop would have [01:08:16.880 -> 01:08:25.960] looked like with one of them. But caveat that I'll add just now is I think the alternative tire allocation forced everyone [01:08:25.960 -> 01:08:30.200] into this sort of hard and medium strategy. [01:08:30.200 -> 01:08:34.080] I think I need a new consultant for my newsletter, man. [01:08:34.080 -> 01:08:35.080] That's pretty good. [01:08:35.080 -> 01:08:36.080] Solid. [01:08:36.080 -> 01:08:41.160] I think it's a super interesting one, though, but I don't I do not think the two stop was [01:08:41.160 -> 01:08:44.320] on because I don't think the soft was that much faster for how much deck it had. [01:08:44.320 -> 01:08:46.680] But other than that, yeah, they didn't. [01:08:46.680 -> 01:08:50.760] They read and I don't know if we talked about this, but Red Bull didn't bring a low downforce [01:08:50.760 -> 01:08:51.760] rear wing. [01:08:51.760 -> 01:08:55.560] A lot of teams brought a bespoke rear wing and beam wing package, which is designing [01:08:55.560 -> 01:09:02.320] manufacturing a wing that you're only going to use here and maybe Vegas, maybe Vegas. [01:09:02.320 -> 01:09:03.320] But Red Bull were like, ah, fuck it. [01:09:03.320 -> 01:09:05.280] We'll just bring our medium downforce for your wing and then a... [01:09:05.280 -> 01:09:06.280] Air soar it. [01:09:06.280 -> 01:09:07.280] Trim the flap. [01:09:07.280 -> 01:09:08.280] Yeah. [01:09:08.280 -> 01:09:09.280] Easy. [01:09:09.280 -> 01:09:10.280] Yeah. [01:09:10.280 -> 01:09:12.280] Sorry, I also forgot to give them the rating. [01:09:12.280 -> 01:09:13.840] I say a B, a solid B. [01:09:13.840 -> 01:09:14.840] Yeah. [01:09:14.840 -> 01:09:18.440] Someone in the chat says, didn't Perez run a super slim wing? [01:09:18.440 -> 01:09:20.240] He did, but he destroyed it in P2. [01:09:20.240 -> 01:09:22.280] And I think that was the only one they had. [01:09:22.280 -> 01:09:23.280] Oofed. [01:09:23.280 -> 01:09:24.280] Was, okay. [01:09:24.280 -> 01:09:25.000] I didn't remember that. [01:09:25.000 -> 01:09:29.000] Yeah, it was, I do recall it being a different wing. [01:09:29.000 -> 01:09:33.000] But if they didn't have spares, then I think they were like, yeah, we don't think it's [01:09:33.000 -> 01:09:35.000] great, but if you want to run it, we've got one of them. [01:09:35.000 -> 01:09:38.000] I think that was data gathering for it, but he wrecked it. [01:09:38.000 -> 01:09:43.000] It wouldn't be surprising to see a little bit of data gathering for later in the season. [01:09:43.000 -> 01:09:47.440] But, are we ready for our next segment? [01:09:47.440 -> 01:09:51.360] Sure why not? [01:09:51.360 -> 01:09:56.240] Fraud Watch. [01:09:56.240 -> 01:09:58.640] Fraud Watch. [01:09:58.640 -> 01:10:00.000] So this is a Fraud Watch. [01:10:00.000 -> 01:10:02.840] I think those sound effects are maybe a little bit glitched there. [01:10:02.840 -> 01:10:03.840] Oops. [01:10:03.840 -> 01:10:08.360] But anyway, Fraud Watch is where we put somebody on blast for an absolutely diabolical [01:10:08.360 -> 01:10:13.840] performance or deed performed in the weekend leading up to or potentially in the future. [01:10:13.840 -> 01:10:14.880] Now we can't do that. [01:10:14.880 -> 01:10:17.800] But Dan, who's on your fraud watch this weekend? [01:10:17.800 -> 01:10:19.600] Alpain, bang, straight in. [01:10:19.600 -> 01:10:21.880] No, I'm not even thinking about this. [01:10:21.880 -> 01:10:27.520] They were nowhere and Ocon retired and nobody noticed. [01:10:27.520 -> 01:10:29.360] Not even the commentators did notice. [01:10:29.360 -> 01:10:32.440] No one mentioned anything until sort of halfway. [01:10:32.440 -> 01:10:36.520] I think he retired like 12 laps from the end and we got to like two laps from the end and [01:10:36.520 -> 01:10:38.360] I realized where's Ocon? [01:10:38.360 -> 01:10:39.360] And yeah. [01:10:39.360 -> 01:10:40.360] So nobody. [01:10:40.360 -> 01:10:43.880] I, unfortunately I hate to do it because I've got some friends that work there, but I'm [01:10:43.880 -> 01:10:45.720] going to put Ha Hass on this weekend. [01:10:45.720 -> 01:10:49.640] They finished a lap down on everybody around this place and they were the only team to [01:10:49.640 -> 01:10:51.080] finish a lap down. [01:10:51.080 -> 01:10:55.600] They were on the struggle bus, but at the same time to put that in a little bit of perspective [01:10:55.600 -> 01:11:00.960] is you can do a better job over the whole season if you don't waste money and time developing [01:11:00.960 -> 01:11:01.960] stuff. [01:11:01.960 -> 01:11:04.680] But I don't know if they brought a rear wing or not, or if they just did a little trim [01:11:04.680 -> 01:11:05.360] or something. [01:11:05.360 -> 01:11:09.040] But yeah, they were pretty anonymous, unfortunately. [01:11:09.040 -> 01:11:14.240] So I think that's the summary, but why don't we go into the next one? [01:11:14.240 -> 01:11:15.240] Hey. [01:11:15.240 -> 01:11:18.560] Oh, you think he's a good boy. [01:11:18.560 -> 01:11:19.560] I am. [01:11:19.560 -> 01:11:20.560] I'm a good boy. [01:11:20.560 -> 01:11:26.720] And you know, good boys, we take a moment to give somebody a little bit of props for a job well done on the weekend [01:11:26.720 -> 01:11:29.200] leading up to it or any good deeds. [01:11:29.200 -> 01:11:31.360] And, uh, we've got quite a few people on there. [01:11:31.360 -> 01:11:35.120] We'll do a summary at some point, but, uh, who have you gone from Monza for your engine [01:11:35.120 -> 01:11:36.120] mode? [01:11:36.120 -> 01:11:37.120] Good boy. [01:11:37.120 -> 01:11:38.120] Don't say total wolf. [01:11:38.120 -> 01:11:39.120] Wikipedia. [01:11:39.120 -> 01:11:40.120] No. [01:11:40.120 -> 01:11:42.760] Um, again, I do this every week. [01:11:42.760 -> 01:11:45.820] I don't put anything in the notes because I always change my mind at the end. [01:11:46.180 -> 01:11:46.540] Yeah. [01:11:46.600 -> 01:11:50.260] I was about to give it to Fred, uh, but I've decided I'm going to give it to Albon [01:11:50.260 -> 01:11:55.820] for his, um, and Albon's impersonation of you shall not pass for half the race. [01:11:56.420 -> 01:11:57.760] Annabelle and Sarah in the chat. [01:11:57.760 -> 01:12:02.300] Also Albon, the goodest boy based, very, very best take. [01:12:02.380 -> 01:12:03.500] I'm I'm here for it. [01:12:03.540 -> 01:12:07.720] Uh, I'm going to be kind of boring. And, boring and it's the second time I've gassed him up. [01:12:07.720 -> 01:12:09.280] I'm not going to tell him because it'll be embarrassing. [01:12:09.280 -> 01:12:12.080] It's the third time actually Max has got three for me. [01:12:12.080 -> 01:12:17.040] Max Verstappen 10 consecutive race wins in a row. [01:12:17.040 -> 01:12:18.840] He's not really had a Max Verstappen. [01:12:18.840 -> 01:12:21.000] I used to be your race engineer. [01:12:21.000 -> 01:12:24.240] Friends, no, but like come on this. [01:12:24.240 -> 01:12:27.800] This is we're going to look back on this in 10 years and be like you cheating sons of bitches. [01:12:27.800 -> 01:12:29.960] No, I do. [01:12:30.040 -> 01:12:30.440] I can't. [01:12:30.440 -> 01:12:35.200] Honestly, I can't read any tweets without people saying, oh, the cost cap, you broke it. [01:12:35.480 -> 01:12:39.160] I'm like, OK, hashtag every scandal. [01:12:39.160 -> 01:12:40.560] Hashtag catering. [01:12:41.200 -> 01:12:45.840] One day, the truth about the cost cap will come out and people can be like, [01:12:45.840 -> 01:12:47.520] God, I feel like such an idiot. [01:12:47.520 -> 01:12:49.000] Yes, because we spend it all. [01:12:49.000 -> 01:12:51.000] Now, just wait, just wait. [01:12:51.000 -> 01:12:52.000] It'll come out one day. [01:12:52.000 -> 01:12:54.000] Bastard night, all the sandwiches. [01:12:54.000 -> 01:12:55.000] Oh, bastard. [01:12:55.000 -> 01:12:58.480] But yeah, that's that's that's who's on the list for this weekend. [01:12:58.480 -> 01:13:04.800] But we've got a week without a race and maybe we can do a special episode next week. [01:13:04.800 -> 01:13:06.360] What are we saying? [01:13:06.360 -> 01:13:10.320] Maybe we'll come up with a guest or something. I think we can. I think we need to do something. [01:13:10.320 -> 01:13:17.320] Oh, guest friends, guest friends. Oh, but anyway, if you guys have been listening to [01:13:17.320 -> 01:13:23.220] the podcast, you've enjoyed it. Don't forget to leave us a review on Spotify or Apple Music. [01:13:23.220 -> 01:13:26.780] Drop five stars. You know you like it, even though we talk trash about your favorite driver. [01:13:26.780 -> 01:13:30.340] I didn't even make one negative comment about Carlos signs today. [01:13:30.640 -> 01:13:33.740] Uh, apparently one of our listeners was upset that I always rag on him and I get [01:13:33.740 -> 01:13:35.620] it, but you don't have to like everybody. [01:13:35.860 -> 01:13:36.760] I'm not mad at you. [01:13:37.140 -> 01:13:38.700] I'll be honest, you can drop a one star. [01:13:38.700 -> 01:13:39.920] I don't give a fuck, to be honest. [01:13:40.540 -> 01:13:41.540] Yeah, exactly. [01:13:42.180 -> 01:13:42.780] Engagement. [01:13:42.780 -> 01:13:45.520] But if you're, if you, if you also want to get involved in this, [01:13:45.520 -> 01:13:50.480] we record these podcasts live over on YouTube at engine breaking account. Keep an eye on [01:13:50.480 -> 01:13:53.760] the stream section. You'll see when we schedule one of these. It's usually Monday or Tuesday [01:13:53.760 -> 01:13:59.040] nights after races. We'll try and sneak one in next week. But yeah, I'm going to go support [01:13:59.040 -> 01:14:03.940] my local butcher, buy some pork ribs to chuck on the Traeger this weekend. I'm not buying [01:14:03.940 -> 01:14:06.740] a whole chicken from him because they cost 12 quid. [01:14:06.940 -> 01:14:08.340] Tesco's got him for six. [01:14:08.740 -> 01:14:09.440] It's not worth it. [01:14:09.500 -> 01:14:14.380] I'm saying I'm going to big up all the parents whose kids have gone back to school today. [01:14:15.500 -> 01:14:16.940] Well done, you've made it. [01:14:17.140 -> 01:14:19.180] We've got through to some holidays. [01:14:19.680 -> 01:14:20.380] You've done it. [01:14:20.740 -> 01:14:22.840] You crazy, crazy bastards. [01:14:22.840 -> 01:14:25.880] But seriously, thank you guys. [01:14:25.880 -> 01:14:28.240] Don't be sure to check out drop engine mode 11. [01:14:28.240 -> 01:14:29.240] A follow on Twitter. [01:14:29.240 -> 01:14:33.960] Drop me a follow on Twitter as well, but Dan's about to hit that 100K milestone and break [01:14:33.960 -> 01:14:34.960] it for on YouTube. [01:14:34.960 -> 01:14:38.280] We've got a video talking about the Monza Grand Prix and what could have should have [01:14:38.280 -> 01:14:40.840] would have been with a bunch of nerdy details. [01:14:40.840 -> 01:14:45.200] So we'll see you guys hopefully next week and yeah. [01:14:45.200 -> 01:14:45.560] Fuck off. [01:14:41.870 -> 01:14:47.270] So, we'll see you guys hopefully next week and yeah, fuck off.